SmoothOper wrote:And well the Japanese are definitely doing not as well, and whether or not this is due to their inflated traditional handicap system remains an open question.
Actually, it's not an open question. It's a funny joke though.
This is my first and last post here. SmoothOper tried to start a Pro-Java/Anti-Java war in another thread, with just about the same method. I'd do the same here that was done on the other thread: split it.
Mef wrote:... upstart challenger Go Seigen in what would later be dubbed "The Game of the Century" - he wins, but barely. ... this is the beginning of the end for Japanese go. The strongest players are hit first and hardest, as exemplified by breaking Cho Chikun's winning streak in the Kisei title. He will not fully recover for nine years. ...
I think it is interesting to note that Go Seigen was Chinese and that Cho Chikun was Korean, perhaps Japan for what ever reason can no longer attract the top talent.
Xie Yimin and Cho U are Taiwanese who became pro in Japan. I think Korean and Chinese do not have a reason to go to Japan anymore as their own pro scenes are competitive and fruitful. Taiwan not so much, so I guess it makes sense for Xie Yimin and Cho U to go abroad.
Mef wrote:... upstart challenger Go Seigen in what would later be dubbed "The Game of the Century" - he wins, but barely. ... this is the beginning of the end for Japanese go. The strongest players are hit first and hardest, as exemplified by breaking Cho Chikun's winning streak in the Kisei title. He will not fully recover for nine years. ...
I think it is interesting to note that Go Seigen was Chinese and that Cho Chikun was Korean, perhaps Japan for what ever reason can no longer attract the top talent.
Xie Yimin and Cho U are Taiwanese who became pro in Japan. I think Korean and Chinese do not have a reason to go to Japan anymore as their own pro scenes are competitive and fruitful. Taiwan not so much, so I guess it makes sense for Xie Yimin and Cho U to go abroad.
The real issue is Taiwan's dominant performance in youth baseball. So long as they were consistently winning the little league world series, it was inevitable that they would have to send their best Go-playing youngsters abroad to study.
Phelan wrote:This is my first and last post here. SmoothOper tried to start a Pro-Java/Anti-Java war in another thread, with just about the same method. I'd do the same here that was done on the other thread: split it.
I went ahead marked this post as off topic since there is obviously no effort to tie in Phelan's association with anything that pertains to the thread. Thanks for playin.
