#179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

Post by The Intrepid »

Perhaps White should have cut now, triggering massive complications--something which White should be striving for, as he is significantly behind.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . 1 . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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Posting just to make sure that my move didn't get lost unnoticed on the previous page :)
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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I totally did miss your post. Sorry, but here is my highly innovative game breaking move!

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[go]$$Wcm128 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . 1 . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . 2 X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm130 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Feels passive though...
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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I still think White should have cut here or otherwise attacked the Black group. White is behind by something like 30 points, maybe more (cursory count), so patient/passive strategy is doomed to failure.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . 1 . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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[go]$$Wcm130 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I feel pretty confident that I am ahead, so I can afford to play it safe and connect in gote.
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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I guess White could try this cut now:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 1 . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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[go]$$Wcm132 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 1 . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I guess playing passively won't do..
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[go]$$Wcm132 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 1 . . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Sorry for being so slow, I'm having a business trip soon (May 19-23), and it's the end of the semester, so there's a lot of paper work for me to do.
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[go]$$Wcm134 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O 1 . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I can cut or it only seems that i can cut..
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[go]$$Wcm134 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O 1 . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Fight!
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[go]$$Wcm136 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Be thick and solid. I don't want any weaknesses.
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[go]$$Wcm136 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . 1 2 . X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This seems to be a good solid move. I am not too worries about my group dying. It seems to have plenty of places to make eyes. When I connect here, it gives me plenty of fighting potential for reducing the left side more.
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[go]$$Wcm138 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Reducing his eyespace. It's also a shape move since it's a missing stone in a table shape. It threatens to cut unless black does something about it. For example,
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$$ | . . . O . . . Y . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . 5 4 Q 2 . O . . O X O O . . . . |
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$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
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I also considered
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
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Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex

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[go]$$Wcm138 Captures: b - 1, w - 7.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 1 . . O . . O X O O . . . . |
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$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
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