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[VerdeICe]

I dont know. The computer said it didn't know how to respond to move 87. Why? Was the move I made so dumb it broke the game? I dont know where to post this exactly so I just put it here. I need to improve anyway. Its a 15x15 but it seems to show up as a 19x19 for some reason...

http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3723

[Unusedname]

It's hard to tell for sure without the right borders.

But I think just the opposite happened.

You were ahead by so many points the computer didn't think it could catch up.

Or the computer thought you were playing some crazy tesuji that would kill him because
I think some bots still have trouble with life and death?

[schawipp]

I tried to make some suggestions - mainly shape issues. Take it with a grain of salt...

Unfortunately, the online SGF viewer seems not capable of 15x15 boards - you need to download the SGF and view it e. g. in cgoban...

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[15]KM[6.50]
PW[GNU Go]PB[Black]DT[2013-10-10]
;B[dl]
;W[fm]
;B[mc]
;W[jl]
;B[cc]
;W[fd]
;B[ci]
;W[mm]
;B[lj]
;W[nj]
;B[mh]
;W[ld]
;B[kd]
;W[lc]TR[mc][kd]C[That's a "ripped keima" - try to avoid that shape if possible]
;B[md]
;W[le]
;B[ke]
(;W[nf]
;B[me]
;W[mb]
;B[mf]TR[le][nf]C[GnuGO also seems to have shape problems]
;W[kc]
;B[hh]
;W[kf]
;B[je]LB[fb:B][ie:A][dn:C]TR[kd][je][ke]C[empty triangle - A would be locally the normal continuation. However I would consider to abandon these stones and play e. g. B or C (C maybe one of the best alternatives). The L12 stones are not that important.]
;W[dn]C[see what I mean?^^]
(;B[dm]TR[dm][dn]C[Another shape to avoid: "ramming with the head into the opponent"]
;W[cn]C[white is happy to answer here]
(;B[em]TR[dl][dm][em]C[empty triangle again]
;W[fn]
;B[en]
;W[fl]
;B[fk]TR[fk]C[This shape is too open - IMHO Dusk Eagle already pointed that out]
;W[gk]
;B[gj]
(;W[hj]
;B[hm]
(;W[in]C[very strange by GnuGO]
;B[hk]
;W[gi]C[GnuGO plays complete nonsense, here - maybe it run out of memory? ^^]
;B[gl]
;W[fi]C[Thanks to his previous blunder, GnuGO's position is ripped apart

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(;B[hi]
;W[fg]
;B[ef]
;W[ff]
;B[eg]
;W[ij]
;B[ik]
;W[ii]
;B[ih]
;W[jf]
;B[jj]
;W[ie]
;B[hc]
;W[gb]
;B[fc]
;W[gc]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]
;B[ec]
;W[ee]
;B[de]
;W[hn]
;B[im]
;W[jm]
;B[kl]
;W[nh]
;B[mi]
;W[ni]
;B[mk]
;W[nk]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[km]
;W[kn]
;B[ml]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[ei]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]
;W[cl]
;B[ck]
;W[cm]
;B[ao])
(;B[hn]C[You can also separate white here - now the whole lower left white stones look really critical and are probably dead (you should try out if it really works...!).

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(;W[hl]C[looks much better for w]))
(;W[ek]C[Thanks to your move 33, w can also consider playing here]
;B[fj]
;W[el]
;B[hk]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[eo]
;B[cl]
;W[gl]
;B[hl]
;W[hm]))
(;B[bm]C[probably this - I don't like the corner situation at all, if you played C3 instead of E3 it would look much better]))
(;B[cm]C[That would be the normal move, locally]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]CR[cg][fi]C[b can block this way unless there is no w support in the vicinity of the corner (e. g . at marked points)]))
(;W[me]C[much easier]
;B[lb]
;W[kb]
;B[mb]
;W[kc]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]
;B[od]
;W[mg]CR[ic][kg][nh]C[b has to live small in the corner, the w group has no real problems (the marked points are possible continuations), while the L12 stones may get weak - all a consequence of the ripped keima]))

edit: some further additional suggestions / typo

[EdLee]

VerdeICe, is bad. Please read this (again and again ) -- Toothpaste shape

See also post #6 of this thread -- Help Me

also makes a bad shape for yourself.

is also related to the same shape problem as -- please read this again Toothpaste shape

[tekesta]

This is why I've gotten less enthusiastic lately about playing Gobots. (I'll put up two of my games with GnuGoBot39 in another thread.) Often, one either has to play with exceptionally strong reading skills right from the start, or play unconventional openings in an attempt to confuse the program.

[schawipp]

This is why I've gotten less enthusiastic lately about playing Gobots. (I'll put up two of my games with GnuGoBot39 in another thread.) Often, one either has to play with exceptionally strong reading skills right from the start, or play unconventional openings in an attempt to confuse the program.

Well, GnuGoBot seems to play on KGS at around 5-6k level. With 10k you can't expect a high win rate. I suggest to play against it with 4-5 handicap stones and to reduce their number when you improved. I cannot see anything negative when playing an opponent who requires stronger reading skills - you can learn a lot more of it than by playing blundering beginners. At 5-6k level, also the reading skill cannot be "exceptionally strong" - it just shows that there is still much room for improving your own reading skill e.g. by doing tsumego.