#238: iseijin vs Marcus

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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 2 . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


His stones inside my group could still be trouble:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 2 O 4 6 . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 7 1 O 3 O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O 8 X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now he could cut me at F6, so I reinforce the connection somewhere
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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I apologize for the delay. It's been a busy week at work, and I haven't yet had time to properly assess the board.

@Uberdude:
I also considered O4 to defend, but I'm convinced there will be a ko fight somewhere in the near future (there almost always is in my games lately) and did not want to give any extra ko threats. Maybe that's silly, I don't know. I dislike the empty triangle I made, but the solid connection provides fewer threats for my opponent later. Ugly, I know ... :blackeye:
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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@Marcus

Well, the empty triangle is an oft-maligned shape that needs some love ;-) But there was another other way to defend that achieved something else useful too (but did give more ko threats than yours).
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 3 . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My thoughts concerning this move:

1. Keep his groups separated.
2. Enclose lower white group (or try to, anyways).
3. Leave my two stones in the middle of the group with some aji.

These are all vague ideas, and I'm not even sure I'm performing them in a good way, but this feels like the right place to play at the moment, at least to me.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My group in the middle is not alive yet. I'm strengthening it into a direction where I might get the chance to connect to the upper group or making black prevent that connection and thus gaining another move for making life.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm ... I think this a dame point ... but I want to be able to get back to my attack soon. Need to be patient.

I can't find a better move right now. I hope I can do something that feels useful soon. :P
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I know this is a very slow move. I think that my group is not yet alive. I considered jumping to P12, but it doesn't seem to create eyespace. Another one I considered is G11, it also doesn't seem to create eyespace and I dont want to strengthen black there. I didn't find any move 'outside' my group which would create eyespace well, so I chose this slow move which gives me 2 eyes.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . 7 . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Time for some reduction here. White is looking solid elsewhere, so time to reduce and look for other opportunities.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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I feel like Marcus' last move should be a mistake, though that seems to be a little hard to establish. Maybe I don't like that it's on the second line. I was looking around here:
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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . 8 . 7 . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Places I would be looking:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 3 . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O 1 . b . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . a . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . 1 O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 3 . O . X X O X X . X . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The move on the left doesn't seem to be sente (because of eg. 3, 4).

As white I would still like to dream of a sneak attack around 'a', but it seems unlikely.

Bottom right I might have liked '1' as a starting place.

Top seems like it should be unconscionably large. Imagine white 'b' instead.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . 8 X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it's too big for black to cut this stone off the corner group.
This variation is not good:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . 6 1 X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X 5 4 2 . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . 7 O 3 . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm wondering what will happen after this. I'm too lazy to read everything out.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . 1 X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . 3 2 . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O 4 . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now black on S3 or thereabouts.
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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . 9 . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


More reduction. W has to be careful about where to block. I should be able to get fairly deep into the corner.
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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . 0 X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As said in the previous post of mine it's no good to block at S5. So I connect my stones.
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O 1 . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Keep pushing in ... I believe I can live in the corner if he blocks at S8:

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O 1 . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X 6 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . 9 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Or, trying another way for White ...

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[go]$$Bcm81 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O 1 . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . 6 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O 7 4 . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X 8 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . a . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Looks alive to me ...
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm blocking here because it will be Gote for him to save his stones. I'm too lazy to read out what will happen when I turn on S8
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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still in good shape here ... I also think White owes a move. I'm pretty sure I can clamp if he doesn't, and he can't stop me:

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , 7 O 6 |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . 5 . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Those 4 stones basically become mine. I think that's rather painful for White. I suppose he can resist this way:

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[go]$$Bcm91 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . X X . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , 2 O 3 |
$$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O 6 1 7 |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . 4 5 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still ok, I think ... White still owes a move in this last diagram, too. Very nice reduction if he doesn't block.
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