Following Iyama Yuta (no world ranking discussions)

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Pictures of the event...

http://www.asahi.com/special/timeline/4 ... ref=pr_igo

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Iyama, playing as the Japanese NHK cup winner, lost to Lee Sedol (Korean KBS Cup winner) in the 1st round of the Asian TV cup. NHK runner-up Ichiriki Ryo did beat the surprise (beat Ke Jie in semi-final shortly after winning EGC) Chinese CCTV cup winner Zhang Tao though.

P.S. oren, in some of those pictures there are coloured percentages above the board. Are these predicted win rates from a bot like Zen, viewer voting/betting, or something else?
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The figures relate to the positional evaluation by a program called 棋神 (programmer Iguchi, company Heroz) but the programmer said that while it's a probability of who's ahead the program is weak in assessing whether stones are dead alive, so I'd assume it's probably wisest to ignore these figures. I think this company is already well established in using shogi and chess software for podcasts, and I'm guessing they are just moving into the go world.
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Iyama beat Takao in game 3 of the Meijin title match. Takao won a big early ko, and Iyama's threat didn't kill a group but he got very thick and after 2 more fights he managed to surround a big enough centre to win.
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Asahi published a couple videos with Cho U going over the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7K5BeeVqw
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Iyama had a big fight and lost against Korean wonderkid Shin Jinseo in the Samsung cup round of 16.
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I think Shin outread him, after the push and the net in the middle, B doesn't really have an option to get out, nor to fight the semeai. So sad to see Iyama losing like this, usually his calculation power seems to be one of his strengths.
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Indeed, Shin played very strongly and without fear. I really liked that attachment from him on the left group that gave Iyama a stupid-looking empty triangle. Diana Koszegi is currently live streaming on facebook a review from him and An Sungjoon, looking at the Ke Jie 3-3 big joseki fight. Now onto Shin-Iyama, looking at an alternative fuseki:
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Iyama out-fought Takao to win the 4th game of the Meijin title match. After losing the first game he's now just one win away from regaining his septuple crown.
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When is the next game? I've to some how watch it live this time...
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16th and 17th October, according to https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/jp/meijin/
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pookpooi wrote:When is the next game? I've to some how watch it live this time...


Nicovideo has video coverage with some live commentary of the entire game.
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The real fun starts next week with the beginning of a potential 10-game match between Iyama and Ichiriki...

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Date                          Game            City       Prefecture
Wednesday, October 11, 2017   Tengen game 1   Toyota     Aichi
Friday, October 20, 2017      Oza game 1      Yokohama   Kanagawa
Friday, October 27, 2017      Tengen game 2   Sapporo    Hokkaido
Saturday, November 18, 2017   Oza game 2      Kobe       Hyogo
Monday, November 20, 2017     Oza game 3      Kobe       Hyogo
Friday, November 24, 2017     Tengen game 3   Munakata   Fukuoka
Friday, December 01, 2017     Oza game 4      Sendai     Miyage
Monday, December 11, 2017     Tengen game 4   Sumoto     Hyogo
Friday, December 15, 2017     Oza game 5      Uonuma     Nigata
Wednesday, December 20, 2017  Tengen game 5   Tokushima  Tokushima


The information is all from Go News.

Edit: I had an error in the dates of the first two games in the list (unfortunately quoted below!) :sad:
Last edited by ez4u on Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Let's view his as a jubango, whether the players agree with it or not.

ez4u wrote:The real fun starts next week with the beginning of a potential 10-game match between Iyama and Ichiriki...

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Date                          Game            City       Prefecture
Tuesday, October 10, 2017     Oza game 1      Yokohama   Kanagawa
Friday, October 20, 2017      Tengen game 1   Toyota     Aichi
Friday, October 27, 2017      Tengen game 2   Sapporo    Hokkaido
Saturday, November 18, 2017   Oza game 2      Kobe       Hyogo
Monday, November 20, 2017     Oza game 3      Kobe       Hyogo
Friday, November 24, 2017     Tengen game 3   Munakata   Fukuoka
Friday, December 01, 2017     Oza game 4      Sendai     Miyage
Monday, December 11, 2017     Tengen game 4   Sumoto     Hyogo
Friday, December 15, 2017     Oza game 5      Uonuma     Nigata
Wednesday, December 20, 2017  Tengen game 5   Tokushima  Tokushima


The information is all from Go News.
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Re: Following Iyama Yuta (no world ranking discussions)

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Oza game 1 vs Ichiriki is underway. Iyama played an AlphaGo style 3-3 on move 5 which I don't recall seeing him do before. It was a diagonal game though so less chance for a moyo from the resulting wall.

Iyama won by resign.
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