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 Post subject: ladders and squeezes
Post #1 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:45 pm 
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I just thought this was such a pretty online game. multiple ladder breakers and makers in different directions and squeezes.



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Post #2 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 am 
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I was kind of surprised to see this inside hane trick play wheeled out by black so many times. Is there really no way to better punish this in a 4 stone handicap game?

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:06 am 
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Nice to see you back dhu.

Java, the usual resistance/punishment of extend out requires a favourable ladder (with this standard ladder-building technique you might recognise from 4-4, approach, one-space low pincer, jump out, press, push and cut variation), which obviously white won't have in a handi game:

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[go]$$W a-e after 10
$$ ----------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . 1 O X 2 4 . |
$$ . . . . a 8 X O O 3 . |
$$ . , . . . b 7 X X 5 . |
$$ . . . . . e c 0 9 6 . |
$$ . . . . . . . d . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]


Also, given Golaxy's fondness for allowing the 2nd line gote seal (by answering inside cut at marked rather than resisting with a) in this similar but shifted along a line 3-3 invasion joseki (e.g. http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/74252) I wonder if white isn't quite as bad as we think.
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[go]$$B Tong Mengcheng 6p (Black) vs. Golaxy NR (White) W+R
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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