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 Post subject: Re: Jika vs Kirby
Post #121 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:37 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . 0 . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My intention is to block Kirby from connecting his upper right group with his centre group. I rejected this because I'm not sure Kirby will react by connecting this single stone but act in the larger picture.
I can't decide if Kirby is going to fight locally (attacking my L13 stone??).
I'll see it soon.

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Post #122 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:52 am 
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Black is playing many moves in the upper right portion of the board, and thus several of his stones are becoming weak.
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 0 . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #123 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:09 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trying to think big?

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Post #124 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:40 am 
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Kirby wrote:
Trying to think big?


How about this for thinking big? :)

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$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #125 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:16 am 
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I also considered:
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[go]$$Wm31
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . 0 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't like that Kirby is slicing up the board as if it was a cake (with the handicap stones being the candles or cherries... (coming home from work - I guess I'm hungry...)).
I chose the slow move hoping that it will make the connection between the upper right and the center weaker.

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Post #126 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:18 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 1 . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, Jika.. You take the top right, and I’ll take the rest!

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Post #127 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:23 am 
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I think move 38 got lost in later diagrams :scratch:

Or did jika just change move 40 and Thun Kirby changed 41? Either war, I‘m confused...

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Post #128 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:45 pm 
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Hmm, good point.

Looking back, I think Jika also has a stone here?

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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . B . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . 1 . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #129 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:47 pm 
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Wait, I’m missing a move, too?

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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . B . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . W . . O . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . 1 . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:scratch:

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Post #130 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:48 pm 
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I think the moves got changed from Jika’s last post..

Maybe we should rewind to here?

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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . W . . O . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #131 Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:52 am 
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First, I'm alive but deeply sorry for my absence!!

Also sorry for probably messing up the moves - I copy Kirby's diagram and then enter my move, but sometimes I have found that there were differences between the present diagram and the one I had saved in my editor.
Since the move numbers in my editor (sabaki) differ, I do not really keep control of the move number we are actually at.

Kirby, thank you for sorting this out.
And yes, that was my plan: I get a crumb of the cake, you get the rest.
I'm a very generous person on the board :D

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Post #132 Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:07 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #133 Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:11 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Slacking with go study, lately. It’s been a busy month. I should get back on track.

I don’t know if this move is good, but I’ll go with it, because I wanted to play it earlier anyway.

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Post #134 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:33 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 3 . . . X . . 4 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Kirby is kangarooing around, so maybe there is something about these 2-point-jumps and I should start using them too?

OK, other things I thought I might do:

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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 3 . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

looks nice because it creates a nice curve, but very far from the corner, so I think it's much too ambitious.

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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 3 . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ambitious plus bold (plus stupid, plus...) - so, given I reject it that much, probably the best move :lol:

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Post #135 Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:14 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Mostly playing off of intuition here... I think the right side is bigger than the bottom, so I attach on the right side. If black blocks the right, then maybe I can get a bigger corner.

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Post #136 Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:52 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought we had agreed that I get the right corners, Kirby? Symmetry would look so nice, please!!
I think this could go for my playing style - what was your intention for playing there? It looked nice.

I rejected my first more aggressive idea: "You go playing under my stones, I play under yours" (Kirby, thoughts on that one? Reaction?):

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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

or direct block/shoulder hit (is it?)

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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #137 Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:10 am 
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I would have expected something like this : give White the corner and get the outside.

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[go]$$Bcm46
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In any case, :b46: at S5 is clearly wrong since it invites White to cross Black's keima.

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