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for android it's probably better to use AQ. which network is stronger? elf v2 - leelaz 15b 0c4ade79 (http://zero.sjeng.org/networks/0c4ade79 ... 2b58d92.gz)
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15b network https://github.com/leela-zero/leela-zero/issues/2192
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Re: best network for mobile device

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What is your use case And? All the bots are way to strong these days so shouldn't "best" have to do with playing experience rather than strength? Although I contributed cpu time to LZ for the last couple of years, I would not even consider it now. I consider katago "best" due to the alternative rule sets, komi, and the interesting way it plays handicap games.

Sadly I do not yet have a mobile device that can run even the really small nets at a reasonable pace. But when (not if) I do, I will not need the "strongest" net.
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I like KataGo, but for android there is no KataGo yet. lz 15b 0c4ade79 is made on the basis of lz 270 - this is about experience. and some networks may not work on weak devices. With this in mind, which network is better?
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I use The 0c4 15b leela network in the ah q go app ( https://apkpure.com/ah-q-go-lite-alphag ... id.aq.lite ) with the ladder patch turned on. I set to 1 thread , 2 playouts on my likebook mars e ink ereader and play out the moves on a real board. It is easily dan level and plays fast! Really great, free, offline experience.

In order to play first AND get a 7.5 komi, I play as white and use this sgf ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i6qEpN ... p=drivesdk ) with one white stone already on a 4,4 space. It will give you an error message that black has passed, you can just click yes and then play a game against leela.

here is the online sgf editor if you want to create a different opening arrangement: http://yewang.github.io/besogo/

elfv2 is very good with the ladder patch as well, at 5 sec/move (1po, 1 thread)

if you have internet, 20b katago is strongest, instant moves https://katagui.herokuapp.com/ , basically pro level bot.
set katago to play at your level https://docdro.id/sHZU1ti or experiment with gtp4zen ( https://rb.gy/kx2ilb )
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I use the latest KataGo 15block at 3 second thinking time. Works great!

It is funny how different 3 second and 4 second feels as respond time.
3 seconds feels really quick but 4 seconds feels kind of slow!
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Yeah, definitely agree with you about 3 seconds vs 4! I was thinking of getting the new ipod touch just to use katago, but probably wait until it gets under $100. Until then will just play against the webapp on my ereader when I have internet. Then download the sgf of the incomplete game to continue the same game except with leela instead when there's no internet or on the go.
set katago to play at your level https://docdro.id/sHZU1ti or experiment with gtp4zen ( https://rb.gy/kx2ilb )
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In AQGoPro_1.2.0 used modified (file size reduced) 0c4ade79
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