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by Jordus Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:47 pm
Black chat
Only other option than what we have discussed is this
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcHowever the stone at c9 is bad for us if we play that out me thinks...
I'm thinking...
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by fwiffo Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:03 pm
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcWe could connect with this
. That way we don't get stuck with a cutting point if white pushes at
a . But...
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI don't know quite how to deal with this, but this
is better than my previous suggestion, which I could only get to work with a favorable ladder, which we're never going to have. This result might be acceptable if we can live in the corner and make something of our weak group, because white is crawling away miserably. Might be better for white to sacrifice.
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by Jedo Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:17 pm
I think there may be issues with Fwiffo's suggestion:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcseems dangerous. The best I can think of is something like this:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcThis way, we can at least salvage something by grabbing some side territory in sente using teh aji of the other stones. Then we will get a chance to lock down some more points/ reduce the middle
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by fwiffo Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:34 pm
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI'm going to change my suggestion to this. Although I think Jordus's move is actually correct, I want to give our courageous captain some options, and I think this is better than the solid connection. My previous move is certainly bad.
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by Jordus Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:34 pm
black chat:
the more i think about it the more I like this... less complicated then the other move, but black is still in danger... hmm...
$$Bc Continued in next diagram
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Continued in next diagram$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI dont know.... grrr.. lol...
I'm thinking...
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by Jordus Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:19 pm
I'm thinking...
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by Chew Terr Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:09 am
Someday I want to be strong enough to earn KGS[-].
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by fwiffo Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:13 am
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by topazg Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:18 am
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by Jordus Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:48 am
Black chat:
Here is what I see....
$$Bcm50
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm50or (ignore variation 1 at move 16 and variation 1 at move 22)
(;CA[Windows-1252]FF[4]AB[qp][rp][eq][jq][mq][oq][kh][cc][nc][dd][pd][ce][qe][df]
so if white tries the ladder we will win it, if they don't we will get an even better result? at least that is what I am thinking... and we can actually come out of the ladder sooner than this too by playing the down part earlier...
I'm thinking...
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by Jordus Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:02 am
I'm thinking...
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by fwiffo Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:47 am
I say continue (B15), and see how it goes, but we're in a bad way.
$$Bcm51
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm51After white plays
a or
b , we need another move in the corner to stave of a white play of
c .
Compare with this result:
$$Bcm45 Joseki
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm45 Joseki
. That way we don't get stuck with a cutting point if white pushes at a. But...
