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by yithril Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:01 pm
$$Wcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Okay I need to play something unorthodox here in hopes of a good result. The reason is:
$$Wcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0I don't know if this is a joseki (or if there are any josekis for this shape) but this looks like a normal sequence and it doesn't invite any complication. It reduces Blacks influence a bit so that's good but that's a large corner to hand to Black.
As for the crosscut, it depends how he responds.
Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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by Chew Terr Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:20 pm
$$Wcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0This was my first read, and it looked okay... However, then I started looking at the below:
$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0This scared me, but '4' seemed to be the problem, so I looked into alternatives.
$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0Obviously, this looks even worse. Then I remembered that this starting move was atari-atari, and that Janice Kim says the pinwheel shape is good from crosscuts. So I'm moving my weaker stone in the direction that best allows D7 to support it. Cursory reading makes this look pretty good, but I exhausted myself reading the bad atari-move that I almost played instinctively...
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by hyperpape Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:30 pm
Would it be too meddling to remind Chew that he can come back to the position later if he gets fatigued?
Chew Terr wrote: Cursory reading makes this look pretty good, but I exhausted myself reading the bad atari-move that I almost played instinctively...
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by yithril Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:49 pm
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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by Chew Terr Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:32 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by yithril Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:20 pm
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I might resign super early this game
This will most likely end up as a ko. Also, he should've just captured my stone.
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by Chew Terr Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:08 pm
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0Obviously, this doesn't work for white, if it played all the way out. As a result, either 1) he will play entirely unexpectedly or 2) he will play to prioritize the left side, which will either sacrifice the bottom stones, or will let me stabilize and hopefully attack one side or the other. A lot of moves I show here seem really blatantly poor in shape, but they do seem to keep the pressure on. I'll try to keep looking at this position, but I'd like to get this move in first. I doubt W can easily give up those two stones (giving me a big wall facing the bottom middle) but this makes my corner's life easier. Basically, this reading is just to show myself 'Okay, I have enough strength here that I think I can be aggressive.'
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by yithril Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:46 pm
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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by Chew Terr Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:20 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Kirby Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:23 am
@Chew:
Were you referring to this board position?
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Chew Terr Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:28 am
Kirby:
Holy blindspots Batman
, I entirely spaced the fact that the cut would be atari. TDK fighting sense for the... hopefully not a loss~ I expect a play on the left which will fix this issue for him anyways (potentially after the ladder-breaker?, but if he doesn't, I'll try to remember that atari...
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by yithril Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:01 pm
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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by Chew Terr Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:28 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0I kind of liked these two points: one prevents the left being built while my top left corner is harrassed, and the other disables ladder breakers (at the cost of a peep) while working on building the bottom. The top left seemed a little more urgent, so I'm taking it. Stability and points, sounds all right. Sadly not a TON of points, but a handful. Also, from here, I can threaten to save that left-side stone, but that's small for now, it feels like.
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by yithril Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:30 am
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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by Chew Terr Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:35 am
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0Ack, this shape is always scary. I really don't want to have to give up my right-side stone, but I can't confidently and safely link to it. I'm going to see what I can do here, but it looks like I'll at least get reduced. I may be best off taking influence here like this, and then invading the top. It might not be much worse than if he took my R17 corner, anyways...
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This will most likely end up as a ko. Also, he should've just captured my stone.
, I entirely spaced the fact that the cut would be atari. TDK fighting sense for the... hopefully not a loss~ I expect a play on the left which will fix this issue for him anyways (potentially after the ladder-breaker?, but if he doesn't, I'll try to remember that atari...