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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


great move now i gotta block of the center as he picks up some free points, lets see if he nobi and continues to rips points from the bottom, im ok with it because he is on the second line.
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | 8 C O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Seems like this is 6 points reverse sente, if I'm counting correctly (I could be wrong). Back to following him around a bit.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O 9 O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



i have been thinking of moves this is what i came up with so far

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | 8 C O X O O 9 O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . b . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . a . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


nothing to big but im still looking for better moves its almost endgame
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Think this :b68: was really bad:
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X b X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X W X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X 0 . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O 9 O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O a O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X c O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . b . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

B can't play at a because W would catch his stones at b. So B lost the possibility to make a point b and can't catch :wc: anymore. Besides c would have been enough to prevent the point there.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Celebrir wrote:
Think this :b68: was really bad:
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X b X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X W X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X 0 . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O 9 O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O a O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X c O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . b . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

B can't play at a because W would catch his stones at b. So B lost the possibility to make a point b and can't catch :wc: anymore. Besides c would have been enough to prevent the point there.


Agreed - not only is it at least minus 2 pts, although admittedly sente - saving the stone also gives white the nice move at k18.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X 0 . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll take free points. Thank you!
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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X 1 X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O 2 O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Back to forced moves. Looking for an opening. Where I can regain some momentum. I know it's late in the game ... just need a few more points.
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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . 3 X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this i just a good shape move and it just makes everything more stabel over here
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Finding points. I could play one space higher, but that would be gote. He may or may not respond here.
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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X 5 . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . O . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Head fake!
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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


after another long break im back

this move is a asking move imma see how he wants to answer it first before i respond, i might make it a pivot point, build a wall or start a fight.

sorry for the wait everybody
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X 8 . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm trying to remember my strategy for this game now. :)
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm170 Prisoners: :b5: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X X X . X X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X O . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | O . O X O O X O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . O . 9 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X O . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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