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by Joaz Banbeck » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:22 am
Kirby wrote: ...I'm a little embarrassed, but I guess there's nothing I can do about it now.
Yes there is. You can resolve to let it never happen again. Repeat after me: "I will never let my cutting stones be captured. I will never let my cutting stones be captured..."
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by Dusk Eagle » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:23 am
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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by nagano » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:39 am
"Those who calculate greatly will win; those who calculate only a little will lose, but what of those who don't make any calculations at all!? This is why everything must be calculated, in order to foresee victory and defeat."-The Art of War
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by Kirby » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:44 am
Joaz Banbeck wrote: Kirby wrote: ...I'm a little embarrassed, but I guess there's nothing I can do about it now.
Yes there is. You can resolve to let it never happen again. Repeat after me: "I will never let my cutting stones be captured. I will never let my cutting stones be captured..."
I figured they already served the purpose of preventing the cut, and that it would be hard to save the stones. I could be wrong, though.
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by Magicwand » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:23 am
$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
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by Kirby » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:29 pm
$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . 8 X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
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by hyperpape » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:32 pm
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by Joaz Banbeck » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:14 pm
Cutting is not completely without risk. There is a bit of bad aji that black may be able to exploit:
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by hyperpape » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:23 pm
@Joaz
Joaz Banbeck wrote: Cutting is not completely without risk. There is a bit of bad aji that black may be able to exploit:
Duly noted, but after
I don't see anything. In particular it seems that,
a and
b lead nowhere.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O 1 X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . 5 . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O 4 O 2 a . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O 3 b O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by Magicwand » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:18 pm
$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . 9 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . 9 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by Kirby » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:10 pm
$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 0 O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm51 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 0 O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by ketchup » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:40 pm
For kibitz only:
A few moves later on, isn't this point at A very interesting? I believe the aji here is great for black. Anyone read more into it or does anyone think we will see this move anytime soon? I "skimmed" through the reading, and I feel like white has to give up something here for him to come out "even". Even if you don't follow up right away, the aji is nice.
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by Magicwand » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:43 pm
$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Kirby
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by Kirby » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:48 pm
$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
be immersed
Numsgil
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by Numsgil » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:01 am
Kirby wrote:
$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O . X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]I feel OK with a tenuki. I think that this move is pretty big.
Hmm, I'd be worried about the cut. Now suddenly the stones in the center are floating, eyeless, and well within white's sector line. Which means white gets to cut in sente, and probably chase black around some more in sente while he breaks up black potential. There's also the very real possibility of those center black stones just outright dying. I think that would null out most of black's handicap stone advantage.
We'll see if MW agrees with me based on how he responds.
$$Wc $$ {LN E14 K14} $$ {LN E14 D10} $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O 1 X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc $$ {LN E14 K14} $$ {LN E14 D10} $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O X . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X O 1 X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]