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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:12 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #90
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

according to plan...

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:28 pm
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #91
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Same as before.

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:07 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #92
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O W . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:35 pm
by emeraldemon
I've replied to this thread twice, and for some reason the response didn't appear :( . Hopefully third time's the charm.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #92
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O W . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 1 O 3 . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . 2 . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #92
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O W . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 5 X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . 1 O 3 . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . 2 4 O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm avoiding the other edge b/c I don't want to give W a if I can avoid it.

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:07 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #96
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O W O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
pretty straightforward for me
emeraldemon wrote:I've replied to this thread twice, and for some reason the response didn't appear :( . Hopefully third time's the charm.

too bad, i haven't seen any problems, hopefully it won't happen again

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:57 pm
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #97
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . B X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #96
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 1 X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O W O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:48 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #98
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . W O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

my last - but very nice - sente against black group. black can answer B6 and i think also B8 as well - with B8 he gets eye space big enough, although his shape doesn't look very strong.

bad thing is that the sequence we just played hasn't solve my problems with the left-center:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 8 . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . 9 . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 7 . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X 5 3 4 X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X 1 O 6 . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O 2 . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i hate this, because however both black groups are already alive, they are relatively weak and i could get many sente moves against them. if i let them connect, all of this potential will disappear.

resistance is futile:
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[go]$$Wcm8 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 8 O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . a X 9 . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 0 X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 6 . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 3 7 . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 4 5 X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . 1 . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O B . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X X O O . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i can't cut at a, because black would connect his stone 6 and my whole left-center would die

this could work, with minimal damage:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X b b . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , b . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . W X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . . 8 X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 7 a . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X 5 3 4 X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X 1 O 6 . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O 2 . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this would allow me to connect with a or b, with only unavoidable sacrifice of the one marked stone.

you could ask why i just won't play once again to fix all of this annoying aji, but it would be gote and i want to stablize my right-center first and then play some good, big, sente moves, so i really want to find a sente way out of this. of course, i cannot forget the possibility that black just don't see this sequence so my worries are not neccessary and in such case i would be happiest than in any of the shown diagrams (and even another possibility, that my judgment is wrong and i don't have to worry about losing one stone or letting black connect)

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:28 am
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #99
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #98
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 5 X 7 . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 3 4 . 2 O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X 8 . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:51 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #100
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

good, it is already 100 moves - in my irrational view it means that we both were able to fight long enough so we can now resign with honour if a losing position come :)

i play on the right side following my previous analysis and i chose the keima because it allows me to push the two black stones a bit if black tries to rescue them or capture them pretty well if he doesn't

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[go]$$Bcm1 Score count
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | e . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . f . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | d . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . b |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . c . . . . . . . g . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

as i look at the board, it is a good time to count the score...

a - white top - around 25, if the two black stones stay dead as they are
b - white lower right corner - around 8 points
c - white lower left corner - something like 10
d - black lower left - around 8, like b
e - black upper left - 20
f - black right side - still opened to changes, i would say around 25
g - black lower side - small, let say 5 points

so my balance is: a + b + c - d - e - f - g = 25 + 8 + 10 - 8 - 20 - 25 - 5 = -15 for me

i excluded center groups from the count, because they are of similar size and there are not much definite territory there, but i can get there more than black, let say at least by 5 points (we will see it more clearly after few more moves, what will black do about his two stones). 25 points for f is more likely to be overestimation than underestimation, so if i add this all together and consider it is a 3-handicap game and there are still more than 150 moves awaiting, i am satisfied with my position

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:42 am
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #101
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O B . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think all the groups are stable now, and we're entering into the very early endgame. This move is big, and has a strong sente followup. I expect something like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #100
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . 2 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like 4 is big, but I think I can find a way to deal with it.

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:13 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #102
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

yay, this hurts... w O16 is the most obvious response now, but it lets black to take the last big point with Q12 and i feel it would set balance of territory too much in black's favor. however b N12 is also terribly big. my move is pretty risky, as my position is not very strong in the area and by invasion i might damage it...

and i hope i am not panicking unreasonably (it sometimes happens to me and then i tend to make things worse, not better)

ok, so much for now, we will see what we will get

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:05 am
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #103
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . B O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I expected this, and almost wanted to play there instead, but the corner seemed too big to pass up. I expect somthing like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #102
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . 4 6 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . 1 W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . 5 2 3 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #102
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . 1 W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm pretty sure W has to end in gote here, which gives me some big sente:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #102
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 2 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:21 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #104
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:24 pm
by emeraldemon
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #105
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X B . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, that wasn't what I was expecting. It gives me the option of connecting over the top:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #104
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . 7 . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X 4 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . 3 2 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . 1 W . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . 8 . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's a chance I could kill W, but I'd be risking it all. I think I can play it safe and still be in this game.

Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:28 pm
by emeraldemon
It occurs to me that if I wanted the side, I probably should have played like this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #102
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . . W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]