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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:17 pm
by hoohoo
SpongeBob wrote: Kirby wrote: To observers:
Lot of people are mentioning psychological aspects. But I think this is overrated. There is a nice quote from Kageyama's book: "Recall the words of Yukichi Fukuzawa: 'Confidence is born of strength, and strength of confidence.'" Well, Magicwand has both and you are - in comparison to him - kind of missing both. I hope that this does not sound offending. You are a nice person, which makes people think you are easily attacked psychologically. But I think the reason for you losing these games - well, not this one, I'm confident - is plainly that he is the far more experienced and complete player. (I wonder why he is only KGS 3d - seems stronger to me ... but what can a 4 kyu tell
) Surely, you feel frightened by the white stones - but who wouldn't, given what he can do with them. I think you have to plainly learn from your mistakes. I would not think too much about that psychological thing. Again: Confidence is born of strength, and strength of confidence.
Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:35 pm
by SpongeBob
I might as well not hide it:
I am not sure if I am missing a point. I understood your remark well. But Kirby picked his moveds after carefull consideration and gave us explanations for why he did it. It turns out that his reasoning is wrong, sometimes. Now these are the mistakes he has to improve on. Surely, there are different styles, one is playing more solid, slow, peaceful and the other one more thin, fast, agressive. But I think you cannot go ahead and say 'Now I will play more hungrily.' It is part of your character, also. See Lee Chang-ho for example. Ok, Kirby was asking about what is the difference between him and Magicwand - so your comment is quite precise. However, I think Kirby's question was more aimed in the direction of what he needs to do in order to win against Magicwand, or generally, how he can get stronger. And this I tried to address with my post.
Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:34 pm
by Kirby
Spongebob,
Yes, I think I am weaker and it is not just a feeling. Why else would I keep losing? My question was mainly that I was curious if there were areas other than reading that I could fix. Because I do not feel like I have read bad, as much as having done bad in other areas. A lot of times in previous games, people have disagreed with comments that I wrote. These kinds of things are interesting to me.
On the other hand, maybe it is still just reading - which surprises me in a Malkovich game, which is why I was asking
OTOH, I probably don't read that well on a larger scale (when it involves stones jumping out). It is definitely a weak point of mine.
Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:35 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:45 pm
by Kirby
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I thought briefly about doing a tenuki, but I don't think that I can let him push my stone around so easily. I should respond normally... I can't justify to myself ignoring his move.
I thought about this:
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:52 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:59 pm
by Kirby
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He is trying to attack my pincer stone. I could tenuki, but I should not, because I would lose too much in the local area.
This way, if he attacks my pincer stone, at least I get decent local profit.
If I played as follows, I would not necessarily:
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:13 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:16 pm
by Kirby
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:18 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:20 pm
by Kirby
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:22 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:23 pm
by Kirby
Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:38 pm
by Kirby
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I have confidence that I can live in the bottom right. I must jump out with my stone, because I cannot let him have all of this side as his territory. It is a bit dangerous because my group in the center may become weak. But his group is not that strong on the left, either.
I don't see another option, because I cannot deal with this:
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Re: 39. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 4
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:43 pm
by Magicwand
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) Surely, you feel frightened by the white stones - but who wouldn't, given what he can do with them. I think you have to plainly learn from your mistakes. I would not think too much about that psychological thing. Again: Confidence is born of strength, and strength of confidence.
