[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . W X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
if i play that move after the exchang then he might answer differently and try to kill everything... i want to make sure he answer as below to secure life.. i will have a cutting point at "a" so i think this will be sente.
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[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X B . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Yesterday was a bit of a bad go day for me...
Well, I suppose it was bound to happen sooner or later. I had a sequence planned if white did that, but not a good one. The / exchange was white's right at any time, so that shouldn't bother me. But the / exchange was terrible for me. I always think I can come up with a better move than the extension (a) after the kick, and I always turn out to be wrong.
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[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . @ . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . # O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X a . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . W X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . B O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I thought that would help prevent white from connecting to his corner if there was a capturing race after I extend. But actually that's not an issue since white can most likely live or escape. So what I actually accomplished was to make (b) a lot less damaging for white to play. Oh well.
I suspect the correct move now is to suck it up and play (a) above. But I'm kinda disgusted with that half of the board now. And I don't want to fight there on white's terms right now. I guess I'll play it so that white can't capture the side in one move.
Next, my plan is something like this:
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X B . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , 1 . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X B . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , 1 . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
After I should be able to save my stones on the left without a big disadvantageous fight. :/ I don't know. (Yes, I realize white should have another stone somewhere...)
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:45 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . B . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
OK I don't love this but what else is there really? I have a ton of forcing moves against his dragon if I need them.
Ideally, eventually he'll have to make the following exchange, and then I at least have an endgame clamp in his corner. This is why I jump directly instead of atariing that single stone first.
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exchange was white's right at any time, so that shouldn't bother me. But the 
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exchange was terrible for me. 
I always think I can come up with a better move than the extension (a) after the kick, and I always turn out to be wrong.
and i should be able to capture his group without hurting my group