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[go]$$Wcm71 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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I thought about cutting, but it seems too generous to white:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Kinda want to play G4, but I'd better slow down a bit.
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I'd kinda want to descend ..
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that this is a bit better than G4.
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I'm surprised how little commentary I have to give to get a "like".
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to play more simply, but it seems like it is too good for white:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Kirby wrote:...I want to play more simply, but it seems like it is too good for white:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it looks pretty good for black.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Black threatens to kill at 'a'.
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . 4 . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . 6 . , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . 9 . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


EDIT: BTW, I'm assuming that Kirby has noticed that 'a' in the diagran below probably kills his group:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . a . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

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@Joaz
No matter what, black has two groups that need settling. So white will have sente and will get H17, which I have a hard time calling good.

On the other hand, if Kirby's current plan fails it will be catastrophic, so your sequence might still be better.


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Also, in your last diagram-- white j3 is pretty hard to deal with. Edit 2: nvm.
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

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daniel_the_smith wrote:[hide]... if Kirby's current plan fails it will be catastrophic...]


We agree on this.

And it looks way too thin to me.
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

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@Daniel: You're right, K2 doesn't work for black.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O . , O X . 2 X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O 4 1 3 . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O 5 6 B 7 O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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