[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O . 6 . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think I have no choice but to continue to attack as strongly as I can think of.
Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:15 pm
by Kirby
I am thinking that he will probably escape. Does that mean I lose? I did get some points from this attack, but I currently seem to be a bit behind, still.
Where can I get more points?
Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:20 pm
by topazg
$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O . 6 . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X 7 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O . 6 . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X 7 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Next comes the bottom edge. I'm completely alive here.
Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:25 pm
by Kirby
I'm going to force myself to wait a bit before playing the next move - I'll at least wait until I look at the position for more than one sitting.
The J15 stone can be sacrificed since it does not give black a second eye. The problem is, I might not be able to contain him.
I need to suck out a few more points from this attack if possible.
I need to seriously consider whether I should keep playing locally, play solidly, or play a big point.
There are many possibilities here.
Despite the possibility of not containing topazg, I think that there's still a game to be had here. I don't think I'm all that far behind on points. I need to get back the flow...
Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:34 pm
by Kirby
$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | x x . . . y y y y y y y y . . . x x x | $$ | x x X . O . O . O y y y y . . . x x x | $$ | x x X O . . X O y y O y y O . X x x x | $$ | x x X O . . X O X X y y y . . X x x x | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . y y y . . . . x x | $$ | . X O . . . . x . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X x . X O . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | y . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | y y y O . X z z O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | y y y y O X z z z . X . . . X x x x . | $$ | y y y y . O . z z x x x x x x x x x x | $$ | y y y y . . . z . x x x x x x x x x x | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | x x . . . y y y y y y y y . . . x x x | $$ | x x X . O . O . O y y y y . . . x x x | $$ | x x X O . . X O y y O y y O . X x x x | $$ | x x X O . . X O X X y y y . . X x x x | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . y y y . . . . x x | $$ | . X O . . . . x . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X x . X O . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | y . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | y y y O . X z z O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | y y y y O X z z z . X . . . X x x x . | $$ | y y y y . O . z z x x x x x x x x x x | $$ | y y y y . . . z . x x x x x x x x x x | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Maybe black has around 47 points for sure, by the points marked as "x". I'll count the "z" points as 1/2 since either of us can play there. That's around 52 points.
Let's say I have around 38 points (marked as "y") plus 4 for captures, which is 42. With komi, this would be 48.5.
Perhaps I am being optimistic, since I have weaknesses that I have to protect, and may not get the entire area on the top...
But I feel that there's a possibility still in this game! I thought I had to kill to have a chance, but maybe I can grab the flow in another way.
Edit: Added "z" values.
Of course, I think I am being very optimistic, since the area on top is not walled off... So I need to figure out a way to bring this optimism into a reality...
Yes, perhaps it is too optimistic. Still, I feel there is a chance for white... Hmmm...
Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:47 pm
by Kirby
Seems there is a weakness around 'a':
$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O 3 O . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
A passive response, but a safe one, and not one I can immediately punish. I want E5 and to push and cut, but if my single stone dies at G10 that may fail. So, I may use it to make a second eye for this group in sente, as I can do lots of things with sente here. Let's see how he responds to this first.
PS the last move was prep to prevent this:
$$Bcm77 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 1 W . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O B O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . X W B 2 . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W O 3 X 4 . O X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O X 5 6 . . X . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O C . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
