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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:58 pm
by Marcus
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: I really hope I'm not self-destructing here. I think this is an interesting fight.
Also, I changed the prisoner count to something a little clearer. We can count the number of stones taken off the board (100 = 00 .. when a stone is taken off the board, we can change the number to reflect a stone off the board.
The more I look at this fight, the more I feel like I need to make it more complicated. Will we get an interesting ko here later? Or maybe now?
An amusing thought:
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:24 pm
by EdLee
Hidden until lower right corner completely settled,
Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:36 pm
by Kirby
Hooray! A go problem!
I've got a few choices here, and I've got to read the best one.
Choice 1:
$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 ? Choice 3:
$$Wcm1 Can I survive this?? \nWhat about with 6 at 'a'?
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Can I survive this?? \nWhat about with 6 at 'a'?Choice 4:
$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Hmmm... Choice 4:
$$Wcm1 Hmmm...
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Hmmm... With so many options, I'll just have to think about this some more...
Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:54 am
by Kirby
Currently considering this set of variations:
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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:17 am
by Kirby
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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:54 pm
by Marcus
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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:03 pm
by Kirby
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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:10 pm
by Marcus
Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:42 pm
by Kirby
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:48 pm
by EdLee
Re:
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:55 pm
by Laman
EdLee wrote: Hidden until lower right corner completely settled,
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bmy first instinct was the same. i guess this is a success for white (other responses to 1 seems great for black):
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bother possibility for 1 is Kirby's choice 3 from his post #123, but it ends bad for black
but Kirby's actual move looks also ok, despite sacrificing the stone (which goes against my intuition)
PS: sorry for posting late and i couldn't cover all possible variations but i decided it is better to post something than nothing
Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 4:19 pm
by Aphelion
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:14 pm
by EdLee
Laman,
Laman wrote: $$B
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Re: 110: Marcus vs Kirby - Kirby's Revenge!
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:41 pm
by Kirby
Re:
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:36 am
by Laman
EdLee:
EdLee wrote: How about:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1my reading is not as sharp as it used to be and yesterday i was posting half asleep, so i was under impression that b Q5 kills white...
$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-1$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-2
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 135-2and it would really do, if a-b exchange was sente for black. but unfortunately for me, white can let his 3 stones go and make my diagram 135-1 fail by the cut w R3 (to be precise: w Q6, b 'a', w R3)
Also, I changed the prisoner count to something a little clearer. We can count the number of stones taken off the board (100 = 00 .. when a stone is taken off the board, we can change the number to reflect a stone off the board. 
