[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White can't let black have C13, and has to play something like C14 himself. But the coming fight is going to be in the center, and black's move will be worth more than white's.
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:16 pm
by Magicwand
my move is looking for below miai a and b. i think even weaker players will see this much. 1 was needed i think. (am not sure why but i felt this exchange was needed before i try below move) if i am wrong..at least it appears to be professional play and looking good. playing here and there.
$$Wcm - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X b . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . 5 O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X 1 . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . a 2 . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X B . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
There is not much to say about this move, except that it seems best by my reading. The objective that I have is clear. Hopefully, I have read far enough.
This is an exciting game for me.
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:56 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bcm54 Move 54 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . O W . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm54 Move 54 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . O W . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:59 pm
by xed_over
HKA wrote:...Malkovichingly...
welcome back Keith, you've been missed!
To the players: I think you guys are going to enjoy the observer's comments as much as we've been enjoying watching your game
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:57 pm
by Solomon
Violence wrote:
Ugh... watching this game frustrates me to no end.
I hate Magicwand's style. I hate his attitude towards players, I hate the reasoning he gives for most of his moves, and how he happens to get away with so much in this game because I feel Kirby is getting intimidated by the bully.
Mind you, I don't hate Magicwand, it's simply what he represents, the club player who plays on instinct and reading, but always has inconsistent thinking. There was a time when I tried to get stronger by playing such players, but I would never grow conceptually. I would never have games where the outcome was decided because my opening and endgame skill was higher(though often true), it was only because I outfought in the middlegame, because these kinds of players will overplay, overplay, and overplay, until the game is simply one huge fight.
And then they review. They always assert that their moves were rooted firmly in their intuition, so whether or not they were correct or not is usually irrelevant to them, because they're so reliant on intuition that they are usually willing to accept their mistakes and lack of understanding of Go theory because they are satisfied with the way they currently play.
Playing against people like that only seems to strengthen your reading and fighting shape. You never really learn new tricks, sharpen your endgame, or develop opening prowess, the game is essentially all middlegame.
And it pains me so much because I've met Mr. Kirby. And I've seen Mr. Kirby play. He's an honest player who looks straight at the board and tries to rationally come up with each move. He's been using this method to get stronger for quite some time, and it always pains me to see a rational, thinking type player, who establishes an early lead and dominating position get beaten by a stronger player who leaves many openings and chances for punishment, but still wins in the end.
Man... if Kirby doesn't win this game, I might have to play a game with Magicwand over this summer.
The first thing that came to my head when I read Violence's comment: Kirby Magicwand
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:00 pm
by Jordus
Araban wrote:
Violence wrote:
Ugh... watching this game frustrates me to no end.
I hate Magicwand's style. I hate his attitude towards players, I hate the reasoning he gives for most of his moves, and how he happens to get away with so much in this game because I feel Kirby is getting intimidated by the bully.
Mind you, I don't hate Magicwand, it's simply what he represents, the club player who plays on instinct and reading, but always has inconsistent thinking. There was a time when I tried to get stronger by playing such players, but I would never grow conceptually. I would never have games where the outcome was decided because my opening and endgame skill was higher(though often true), it was only because I outfought in the middlegame, because these kinds of players will overplay, overplay, and overplay, until the game is simply one huge fight.
And then they review. They always assert that their moves were rooted firmly in their intuition, so whether or not they were correct or not is usually irrelevant to them, because they're so reliant on intuition that they are usually willing to accept their mistakes and lack of understanding of Go theory because they are satisfied with the way they currently play.
Playing against people like that only seems to strengthen your reading and fighting shape. You never really learn new tricks, sharpen your endgame, or develop opening prowess, the game is essentially all middlegame.
And it pains me so much because I've met Mr. Kirby. And I've seen Mr. Kirby play. He's an honest player who looks straight at the board and tries to rationally come up with each move. He's been using this method to get stronger for quite some time, and it always pains me to see a rational, thinking type player, who establishes an early lead and dominating position get beaten by a stronger player who leaves many openings and chances for punishment, but still wins in the end.
Man... if Kirby doesn't win this game, I might have to play a game with Magicwand over this summer.
The first thing that came to my head when I read Violence's comment: Kirby Magicwand
Wow! I haven't watched that in forever. Awesome man!
Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:57 am
by Kirby
$$Bcm55 Move 55 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . O O B . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
