lemmata wrote: No term for sunjang baduk seems to have existed before then, which makes it possible (even likely) that Chinese style go was also widely played.
Your theory is also possible. However, if sunjang baduk was the only baduk until that point, doesn't it seem more likely that they would come up with a new name to describe free placement baduk instead of changing the meaning of an existing term? All of this is pure speculation, of course... Also, I don't know if they only called it baduk back then. I only know that the term "sunjang baduk" did not exist until the early 20th century. Someone much more knowledgeable than me in these matters would be needed to sort that out with more certainty.speedchase wrote:If they only called it Baduk, wouldn't that point to the fact that they only played it that waylemmata wrote:No term for sunjang baduk seems to have existed before then, which makes it possible (even likely) that Chinese style go was also widely played.
lemmata wrote:Your theory is also possible. However, if sunjang baduk was the only baduk until that point, doesn't it seem more likely that they would come up with a new name to describe free placement baduk instead of changing the meaning of an existing term? All of this is pure speculation, of course... Also, I don't know if they only called it baduk back then. I only know that the term "sunjang baduk" did not exist until the early 20th century. Someone much more knowledgeable than me in these matters would be needed to sort that out with more certainty.speedchase wrote:If they only called it Baduk, wouldn't that point to the fact that they only played it that waylemmata wrote:No term for sunjang baduk seems to have existed before then, which makes it possible (even likely) that Chinese style go was also widely played.
Yes. It is possible that Chinese style diagonal placement baduk would have been played along with sunjang placement baduk. It is reported that Kim Ok-kyun (Honinbo Shuei's Korean friend---there are some interesting stories in John Fairbairn's Shuei book about him and the Driftwood Go Board; the report is not from John's book though) claimed that Chinese style placement was popular in the late 18th century, when gambling on baduk became all the rage and sunjang baduk came back into style because it sped up the games compared to Chinese placement baduk.jts wrote:It's also important to remember that in even games, ancient Chinese go was played with diagonal fuseki. I'm not sure when they stopped. But in the seventh century, it's not as though there was free-placement versus fixed-placement, there were two different kinds of fixed placement.
quantumf wrote:Are they playing Go in the Gangnam Style video? See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q1 ... re=related (about 53 seconds in)
