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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:32 pm
by Uberdude
:rambo: :rambo: :rambo:

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:44 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . 1 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
that is not urgent... luckly my oponent is keep missing the point of the game.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:48 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know why I'm so bad at situations like this... I didn't (and still don't) expect that white can live in this area. Maybe it's still one of my weaknesses and I feel entitled to keep my area.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Not enough space for white?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . 2 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . 3 O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . . . 1 X 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:05 pm
by Magicwand
N2

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:19 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I won't allow him to get these forcing moves:
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . 5 . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:39 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
wow...
If he counted he would not make that move

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:44 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . 6 . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Smooth move by him. I guess he can look forward to some aji with his 2 isolated stones. Anyway, I'm not worried about the corner, white always had his chance to make territory there. It's his if he wants it.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:50 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think it's sente and secure life.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:01 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I just assumed this group kinda dead-ish... maybe if he lives, I kill the corner? Boy... it might be troublesome with my thin aji in the center. Will read after this move.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:03 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . . . O . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:09 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . 0 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to protect this, hopefully with sente.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:13 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X 1 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:16 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Big trade. He will take the corner too? Then I will need to count... I feel that it will be very close.

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:31 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
didnt see that move
about to give up

Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:47 pm
by emerus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X 4 . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I start a ko at b9(white b10), it will potentially make him very thick. So I think I should leave it for him to clean up later. That lingering aji makes it hard to count exactly but my capture in the center is huge and white has nothing that can compare to it.