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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:19 pm
by Maharani
In game 93 (NZ rules, 7 komi), around move 134 white starts to make a small life inside black's center moyo, but black profits enough elsewhere to draw the game. White 252 and 266 are such pretty-looking endgame moves
https://online-go.com/review/947044
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:07 pm
by Maharani
In game 94 (7 komi, NZ rules), black gives a 48-point lower side territory away to white in exchange for exerting pressure onto white's right side group that has invaded black's moyo there. After black move 249. A9, KataGo suddenly realizes that white is 8 points ahead rather than it being an even game still. Black gets depressed, throws a fit, and in the end white wins by about 30 points.
https://online-go.com/review/952287
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:50 pm
by Maharani
In game 95 (7 komi, NZ rules), despite white's best efforts at reduction, black gets a 49-point lower side territory. Of course, white ends up with a left side group that's almost as large. The lower left corner features our third seki in this game series. Black wins the game by 2 points.
https://online-go.com/review/955134
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:22 pm
by Maharani
Maharani wrote:According to Waltheri, the first five moves of game 84 (7 komi, NZ rules) appear in 849 pro games. Move 6 does not appear in any pro games.
https://online-go.com/review/910790
$$Wc Seven previous games continued at a instead of Q3. At least one future game will continue at c.
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.sgf:
Clossius, AGA 3d did a 45-minute video review of this game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfyGREOO0NQ
I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review as well.
Re: KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games + video reviews
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:07 am
by xela
Hi, sorry I haven't been online much this year. I'm pleased to see this series is still going! Are you planning anything special for the 100th game? :-)
Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:34 pm
by Maharani
Game 96 (7 komi, NZ rules) sees a black and white dragon running through the center, both of them surviving happily. The game ends in a draw.
https://online-go.com/review/957737
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Re: KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games + video reviews
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:40 pm
by Maharani
xela wrote:Hi, sorry I haven't been online much this year. I'm pleased to see this series is still going! Are you planning anything special for the 100th game?
I just saw this post! <3 I've already played 106 games, I'm just way behind on posting them here. I didn't do anything special for game 100, but once I post it here, I'll post the updated win statistics and fuseki index.
Re: KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games + video reviews
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:52 pm
by lightvector
I watch some of the video reviews from time to time when they come out, thanks for making these.
Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:01 pm
by Maharani
You're very welcome, that makes me happy to know!
Just as with game 89, moves 9 - 16 of game 97 (NZ rules, 7 komi) were also identical with game 49. In fact, despite starting from scratch again, all of moves 1 - 22 of game 97 were identical with game 89. It seems like the 60b neural network currently employed at ZBaduk is much more confident in its opening moves than the previous 40b nets. By move 200, white has sacrificed a seven-stone group that started out as a 3-3 invasion (of which there were four again) in exchange for living small with all of her bottom side stones. It's another draw.
https://online-go.com/review/962053
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.sgf:
Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:34 pm
by Maharani
Game 98 (7 komi, NZ rules) is a low territory count game that ends with nine living groups on the board. Of course it's a draw.
https://online-go.com/review/971560
$$Wc Game 88 and at least four other games continue at a instead of C3.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:39 am
by Maharani
In game 99 (7 komi, NZ rules), black's double approach stones to white's 4-4 corner link up to surround it completely and make 38 points in the process, while white's group lives with 4 points. It's a draw.
https://online-go.com/review/975586
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 am
by Maharani
Here's my 10-kyu rundown of game 100 (7 komi, NZ rules):
Moves 1 — 4: Black takes the upper 4-4 points, white the lower 4-4 points.
5: Black approaches the lower right.
6 — 10: 3-3 joseki in the upper left.
11 — 27: Double-approach joseki in the lower right.
28 — 62: White makes sabaki in black's left side influence.
63 — 66: Black finishes a moyo in the upper right, white lives with the left side group.
67 — 97: Lower side fight that spills into the center.
98 — 107: White makes sabaki in black's upper right moyo, splitting black into a solid 11-point corner and a living group on the side.
108 — 117: The lower side fight resolves. Black makes 31 points there.
118 — 122: Black and white solidify their right side groups.
123 — 140: The center fight continues. White finishes a 20-point upper side territory.
141 — 187: The center fight resolves. Black finishes a 4-point territory in the center, white a 10-point territory on the left.
188 — 209: Black and white reduce each other on the right side. Black ends up with 2 points of territory there, white with 3 points.
210 — 218: White finishes a 4-point territory in the center and a 4-point territory in the bottom right.
219 — 306: Yose. The game ends as a draw.
https://online-go.com/review/979399
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:44 pm
by Maharani
In game 101 (7 komi, NZ rules), at move 14, white invades black's lower side moyo. At move 33, black invades white's left side moyo. At move 55, black invades white's upper side moyo. At move 80, white invades black's right side moyo. White wins by 2 points.
https://online-go.com/review/982122
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.sgf:
Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:23 am
by Maharani
Moves 8 to 17 of game 102 (7 komi, NZ rules) see white pursuing some very strange aji in black's upper right corner. After move 196, Kata suddenly realizes that black is ahead by 14 points rather than just 2. White loses her will to live and ends up losing by at least 30 points.
https://online-go.com/review/984818
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Re: KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games + video reviews
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:56 am
by Maharani
Game 102 was our hundredth “ranked” game. (In games 42 and 43, white played a slightly suboptimal move 2 in order to achieve a 50 % winrate.)
Our current tally is 24 black wins, 37 draws and 39 white wins, or an effective winrate of 57.5 % for white.
A full 23 % of games continued from these two positions: