$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
just play solid moves until i get a chance to start the ko.. by my count i think the game is very close...or i am ahead.
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:04 pm
by Jedo
$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This certainly seems wrong, but at the end of the day I just couldn't come up with a reason not to do this. The top is clearly more important than the right side, and I'm pretty strong around so I"m not worried about the cut
$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0 O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . 1 X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . 3 . 6 4 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0 O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . 1 X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . 3 . 6 4 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'd be pretty happy with this
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:22 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am happy with below
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O 7 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X 4 5 . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O 7 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X 4 5 . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:12 pm
by Jedo
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I hope he doesn't jump next, I find those annoying to deal with. Damn you send line!
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:50 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 3 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 3 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am scared he might know about ko and looking for a way not to give him any chance to win. he probably donsnt know about the ko but i dont need to risk my winning for that. i think will win this fight because of a & b ko threat. then his marked black group is dead.
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O B O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O B B O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O B B B O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O B B B O X . X X X O O a . b . . | $$ | . B B B . B O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . B O O . B . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . B B O . . B O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O B B B O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O B B O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O B . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 3 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O B O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O B B O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O B B B O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O B B B O X . X X X O O a . b . . | $$ | . B B B . B O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . B O O . B . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . B B O . . B O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O B B B O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O B B O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O B . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 3 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:32 pm
by Jedo
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X . X O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Yeah, this is bad. I'll probably come out of this with sente but white's group will escape. I played this because it threatens two eyes, and if white tries to take my second one away he doesnt have enough liberties to kill
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 7 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | 9 . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 8 X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 7 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | 9 . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 8 X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Assuming he just takes the ko, I guess I'll just live
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 8 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 9 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 7 . 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O 6 X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 8 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | 4 9 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 7 . 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This really takes a lot of my points, and it'll be tough to have enough to beat MWs endgame
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:40 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:7 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O X X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 7 . O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:7 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O X X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X 7 . O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:03 pm
by cyclops
Hidden for both:
next B38@a5 kills white, isnt it??
edit: one of my stupidest contributions forever. I didnt realize W gets an extra liberty in the ko.
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:53 pm
by Li Kao
@cyclops
cyclops wrote:next B38@a5 kills white, isnt it??
W A2 keeps the ko. Or did you find some tesuji around F3?
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:56 pm
by Jedo
I resign.
Thank you for the game Magicwand. I enjoyed playing with you. When I'm stronger, I would love to play with you again.
As for the game itself, I feel my opening was terrible, and I got off to such a bad start that I had to look after my own weak groups for a while. With the current ko situation in the bottom left, and I don't see a way to win this game.
I'll go read the comments now, and sorry I couldn't give you a better game.
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:10 pm
by Magicwand
thank you for the game.
i think white is winning..but still there is ko. you should at least try to fight ko. if you can solidify rest of the board then you still have a chance. below is my prediction for future few moves.
$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:7 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 0 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O X X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 8 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X 9 . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:7 Black:9 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 0 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O X X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O 8 . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | X 9 . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | X X O . O . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:41 am
by Magicwand
hyperpape wrote:For obs: Assuming Magicwand is right about killing, shouldn't Black restart the ko and use the upper white group's need to live as a source of threats? Would this work/is it a good idea?
you might be right but thing is that it is a two stpe ko so game was over already. i would capture his stones to rid of ko threats and it will still be ko and he doesnt have any other ko threats. so i would gain sente because he has use get life threat in gote.
IMO after he played ugly move to solidify his points leaving bad aji he didnt have any chance of winning.
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:46 am
by Jedo
Magicwand wrote: IMO after he played ugly move to solidify his points leaving bad aji he didnt have any chance of winning.
Which move are you referring to?
Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:51 am
by Magicwand
Magicwand wrote:
hyperpape wrote:For obs: Assuming Magicwand is right about killing, shouldn't Black restart the ko and use the upper white group's need to live as a source of threats? Would this work/is it a good idea?
you might be right but thing is that it is a two stpe ko so game was over already. i would capture his stones to rid of ko threats and it will still be ko and he doesnt have any other ko threats. so i would gain sente because he has use get life threat in gote.
IMO after he played ugly move to solidify his points leaving bad aji he didnt have any chance of winning.
move 108 should be at "a"
$$Wcm101 Prisoner White:6 Black:4 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a O 4 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner White:6 Black:4 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a O 4 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . | $$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . | $$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . | $$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]