93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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topazg wrote:
Holy cow this is complicated. This is what I'm likely to play (I've considered "a" through "e" too, so please ask if you want to know what I don't like about them):

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . e O d 4 X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X c 5 a . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm happy with the following:

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[go]$$Bcm65 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 6 O 4 O X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X 2 1 5 . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Also very happy with the following:

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[go]$$Bcm65 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O 3 O X 5 . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . 1 2 . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No idea about the following:

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[go]$$Bcm65 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . 9 . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 5 . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O 3 C X 4 . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . 1 2 8 O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Need to read some more.


@topazg:
I'm curious why you didn't play D first. Given your plan, that was my instinct.

Edit: At first I asked about the wrong letter: I meant h4, wedging between the two white stones.
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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one variation i didnt mention before.
i am thinking he might choose this path.
this picture is not bad for white because i can build my central influence and break his territory same time.

note that a and b exchange is sente and usually logical to play before killing my stone.
but then i will not have c sente. i am saving my aji for future use.
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . c O . . 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X 2 X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X b X O 3 O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . a . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . . 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . X O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, this is interesting, maybe he can still live on the bottom - I suspected he couldn't. Let's have a look:

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[go]$$Bcm73 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . 3 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X 5 . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X 7 X O 2 O 4 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 9 6 . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 0 . . 8 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm83 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . 2 . 4 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 6 O . . O 3 1 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll have to check whether this is good enough for me. It may well not be, but this thickness and potential is still very valuable to my position generally. And... there's always this:

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[go]$$Bcm73 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . 3 1 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X 4 . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . X O . O 5 X 6 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 7 C X 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm83 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X O 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X O 1 X 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . X O . O X X O O 3 6 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . X . X O 4 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 9 7 . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But this looks rather bad for White. Maybe he's found the chink I couldn't read. Will have a look to see if there are any clever killing tesujis hiding. Where's unkx80's tsumego brain when you need it.


@jts:

Well, I wanted to make it harder for him to look after the bottom. I figured to begin with, those stones were relatively light and that he could ignore it to focus on splitting. In hindsight, I think it was always destined to end up following this line anyway, so I guess not much difference :)
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . X O 4 O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . 5 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X . X O O O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X 7 X O O O 8 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 6 . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i will let you choose :b79: on defense.
one way street..
i successfully distroyed his bottom..but i gave him toomuch influence..
i have to be careful because i can not let my two stones in the middle become a target.
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X B . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 1 O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Many thanks :)

As planned ... so, he does live after all. Predictions:

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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X B . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 1 O . 4 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 6 2 . . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . 4 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



i didnt really count but i think i am ahead comfortablely.
only thing i have to worry about is his middle influence.
if i can control that then i have this game in the bag.
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something I'm aiming for if White ignores:

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[go]$$Bcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . 9 , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X 6 5 . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . a O 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he doesn't, this is the influence I want to start my attacks in the middle and the top left
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Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)

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Hoy, topazg:
Just eating that invasion I think was pretty big, but you did get big influence. So in hindsight do you think his m3 was a good move ? Ok ? Bad ?


Edit:
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Magicwand's next move; I bet topazg offers an exchange.
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is what he is after.. and it is not good for me.
i have to twist the sequence and not take this path.
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[go]$$Bcm87 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O 4 O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . 5 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . 2 X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


something like below is what i expect but..very complicated.
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[go]$$Bcm87 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . 6 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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