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Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:12 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm91 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X 5 . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . 6 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

skydyr wrote:for magicwand
How do you evaluate the board right now? What do you see as equal, unfavourable, and good for you? You make a lot of references to being ahead or behind, but I'm not sure I see it.

i am ahead for sure. i gaveup many points to build thickness all around..
i am looking at 3 points a b c that my opponent is not counting. (maybe he knows)
my thickness will pay me enough points at the end...
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[go]$$Bcm91 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . a O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . b X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X 5 . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . c X X O . 6 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:07 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm91 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . 6 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move aims attack to the C6 group

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:12 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm91 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 8 . X . . . O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:15 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm91 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . 8 . X . . 9 O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My H7 stone now looks useful :D

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:35 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:44 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is almost the only move now.... This move has some weakness, but still I need to play here

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O 2 . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:54 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O 2 3 . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 5 8 0 . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X 4 6 7 . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O 2 3 . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm111 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 5 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 6 8 O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X O O 1 7 9 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ladder works

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:07 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
if you play this game while playing pocker... you lose pocker and misread on go. :(

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:11 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

His white stones inside can't live but he can profit from the center using the weakness of N16 group

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:14 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:29 pm
by The Intrepid
A rather unfortunate misread by Magicwand. :( I guess he should have interposed 1 for 2 before playing at "a":
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . 2 B O . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . a O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:00 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Bcm101 white : 1 black : 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . 7 . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . W O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Why is he wasting ko threats?

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:31 am
by Magicwand
O11

Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:38 am
by mitsun
Interesting endgame study, if the fighting is really over. Here is my analysis of the upper left. Maybe someone else wants to try counting some of the other big areas?

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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . X X O O X O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X O X . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . X O X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . X O O X . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . O O . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O . O . . O O . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A play in the upper left is worth around 14 points double gote by my count (see diagrams below), but sente considerations make it more interesting than that.

If W plays first, he has a nice clamp:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 7 . . . . |
$$ | . 6 X 5 . O . . |
$$ | . 2 1 O O X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . |[/go]

W might want to omit the final connection to take sente, having already limited the potential gain for B if he gets the next move. If B later captures, he gains around 6+ points more than shown above.

If B plays first, he can go this far in gote. The difference between this diagram and the previous diagram is around 14 points.
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[go]$$B W4 tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . 7 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . . 1 2 8 . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . |[/go]

But it looks better for B to hold back as shown below, for a large partial gain, in an attempt to take sente. B threatens a monkey jump worth another 6+ points if W does not respond.
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . |[/go]