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Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:48 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #116 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . B O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O . X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

hell, again i almost resigned and again careful count showed it was quite even (and again please write me, if i am wrong)
i am organizing a small tournament at the weekend, so i might be here tommorrow morning and then surely not before sunday afternoon

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:25 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #116 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . . W . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O . X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

the game is pretty much over. i think i am ahead comfortably. but way he answer all my moves make me uneasy.

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:14 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #118 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . B O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O . X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

sorry for making you wait so long
huh, white's move is very bad for me, but i think following sequence will give me life. not sure about the score right now
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O 9 X 7 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . 1 O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , 3 2 . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O 4 X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . 5 . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:58 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #118 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , 2 1 . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O 3 X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . 4 . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
let me know if you disagree
wow..he played worst move possible. he lost my respect on that move.

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:12 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . 3 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

P13 would give me life more simply than 3, but 3 looks worth more points and still surely alive. it might be even life in sente, but that would be probably overoptimistic :). below are some of possible white responses other than N16
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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O 2 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 4 1 . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O 2 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 4 1 . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X 3 X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:00 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . W X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:41 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
My prediction:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O a X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . b . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . B . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The upper right black group is alive because 'a' and 'b' are miai.

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:23 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #128 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . B . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i almost hoped i would be able to live even after tenuki, but white can get at least ko and i dont think there's a move worth playing ko for my dragon. i chose my actual move because it seems to best in terms of territory compared to other possible moves in the area, although maybe it creates some bad aji for me.
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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 1: after tenuki... ko at 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . 8 O 2 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . 0 4 1 6 X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . 9 X 5 X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O 7 X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:57 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #128 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . W O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:51 am
by gaius
Joaz Banbeck wrote:My prediction:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O a X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . b . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . B . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The upper right black group is alive because 'a' and 'b' are miai.


This tenuki looks a bit dangerous. There seems to be a ko - I'm not sure if it's playable for white yet though, if he loses it he instantly loses the game.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . 9 O 3 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 5 2 7 X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . 6 X 0 X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O 8 X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124-126 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . X . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . 1 . X 2 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . O X O X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


EDIT: after the game exchange, the aji seems to have disappeared - so if I'm not mistaken, white's last move was gote. Let's see if Laman capitalises on this :).

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:28 am
by gaius
To backtrack a little bit, why was this move not played at a? After that, b would be black's sente. Somehow, black's shape in the game feels a little strange and slack.
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #106 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . b . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . B a O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O . X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sure, white can make a little excursion into black territory - but 3 makes black strong too, and white now needs to spend a move at c.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #106 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 2 3 . O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 1 O c . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . 7 6 4 . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O . X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:50 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #130 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . O O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . B X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ok, so in the end it is life in sente. next i want to play some sente endgame, starting probably with P4, O4, E4, then maybe J17 and finishing in gote with R5 or J9

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:54 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #130 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . O O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . W X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . . O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:15 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #132 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . O O . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . . . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X . . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O O . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . X . . O . B O . X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

feels like a bit of aji keshi, but i can't see what could happen here to allow me to utilize the aji, so i just take sente endgame reduction

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:41 am
by Jonas
After a quick count I think magicwand will win this game, I guess he plays the better endgame and right now the territory looks even.