[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . 2 X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . 4 X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This way, White is still not alive and Black gets the corner while sealing White in. Simple, yet clearly more effective than the route Black chose. The extension of P16 he made becomes instantly low in value after W gets R18.
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:20 am
by Kirby
Did somebody add ranks to this thread? I really hate associating myself with a rank, but I guess I don't care in this case...
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:22 am
by Solomon
Kirby wrote:Did somebody add ranks to this thread? I really hate associating myself with a rank, but I guess I don't care in this case...
Yeah, it was done by suggestion in order for observers to get an idea of which games to watch, which makes sense. You could easily edit out your rank with (?d/k) if you don't like what I put for yours .
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:23 am
by Kirby
Araban wrote:
Kirby wrote:Did somebody add ranks to this thread? I really hate associating myself with a rank, but I guess I don't care in this case...
Yeah, it was done by suggestion in order for observers to get an idea of which games to watch; you could easily edit out your rank with (?d/k) if you don't like what I put for yours .
Well, I don't like putting anything at all to be honest - you can see my weaknesses and strengths by observing the games, but I don't care that much.
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:29 am
by Magicwand
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$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X W . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think that it's time to connect this group now. Playing with the contact stone he just made gives him many forcing moves, and could make my group here potentially dangerous. I don't seal him in this way, but I can still escape with my center group.
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:55 am
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . B . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The stone isn't that important. I need to jump out and continue to strengthen my group. Later on, I can save the stone, and he'll have a cutting point at "a" that may or may not be relevant, since he can play at "b":
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O a b . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . B . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I can hear people saying that this is a bad move already...
For Kirby:
I don't think this is a bad move.
Cool! From your earlier comment (about losing a stone), by the way, I can kind of see that P4 was bad now. I thought it was cool at the time, but it has put my center group through a lot of trouble now that I think about it.
Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think that it's time to connect this group now. Playing with the contact stone he just made gives him many forcing moves, and could make my group here potentially dangerous. I don't seal him in this way, but I can still escape with my center group.
Kirby is just ensuring the safety of his stones and show no fighting spirit at all. No wonder he is so easy to bully. Anyway, I think it is possible to block white's attachment.
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