#201 drmwc vs lovelove

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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . 5 X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My three options are a ,b, c. I'm not sure there's a big difference between c and a - I chose a because it's tighter. b is probably a mnistake.

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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . X b c e . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . a X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If W plays at e, the contrast between W's shape in the top R and mine in the bottom L is quite entertaining!
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X 6 . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this is sente.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X 1 . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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I think lovelove meant this:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X 1 . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 3 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 7 . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


126 is a good move. It is double sente. It would been nice have taken a chance to play as shown:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | 8 O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | 7 O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . b . X X . . a O X O . X . |
$$ | 6 O 9 X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | 2 1 X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | 5 3 X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | O O X O X 3 . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | 2 O O X X . . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | O O 1 X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | X X X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maybe I could have played this sequence insttead of 123. I was worried that move 1 in the first diagram may not really be sente, but it leaves a huge move behind.

There are various possible ways of resisting W 126, but none of them look very good. For example, atari at a in the first diagram potentially loses point.

For W 127, I have left a peep behind at b. This clearly loses me some points. I beleive that 127 is more efficient on the upper side, which regains those points, for example:

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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O 4 O 7 9 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O 3 . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 5 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 6 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If something like this happens, the 29-30 exchange is reasonably helpful to me.
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 8 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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drmwc wrote:
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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O 4 O 7 9 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O 3 . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 5 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 6 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
:shock: Does drmwc really plan to fight this ko?
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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O 3 . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 4 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 2 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |[/go]

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[go]$$cm127
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O 5 O 7 . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X C X 6 . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X 9 X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . 8 . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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@lovelove
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[go]$$cm101
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . O . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X 9 7 8 . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . 0 . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
lovelove wrote:I think black made a little endgame mistake.
What do you think drmwc should have played instead of :b7: and :b9:?
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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[go]$$cm121
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . . O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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The Intrepid wrote:@lovelove
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[go]$$cm101
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . . . O . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X 9 7 8 . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . 0 . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
lovelove wrote:I think black made a little endgame mistake.
What do you think drmwc should have played instead of :b7: and :b9:?

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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Probe - takes some W terriorty away. By my reading, tenuki by W (although possible) goes badly. One non-tenuki possibility:

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X b . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O 4 O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 3 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . 2 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . 5 X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . 6 O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X a O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


and I have taken some territoty in sente. Possible moves for me after this are a, b, c and the sequence shown.

Here's another possibility for w:


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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . 6 . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 2 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X 5 3 1 O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . 4 O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . 7 . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If W omits a move around 36, B takes a lot of territory in sente by playing there. Then 37 looks quite strong.
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . 2 O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . . X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hmm..
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . 3 X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . . O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned.
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X . X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . 4 O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #201 drmwc vs lovelove

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[go]$$cm131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O . . . O O X O O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . . O . . O . O , O . . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X . . . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | O X X . X . O . X X 5 X X O X O . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . X O . O O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O O . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X X X O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X O . O . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O . O . , . . X O X , . . . |
$$ | . O . O X O X . . O . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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