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94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

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Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:22 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O 4 . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X . X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
From what I read...he can't cut. Now if I'm wrong its game over

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:26 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X . X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . 5 . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:28 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X 6 X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:36 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 8 X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:47 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . 9 O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:57 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 0 X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:03 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm161 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O 7 X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . 5 X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . 3 X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . 2 1 X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . 4 X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
:b66: = :w61:

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:12 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm161 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X 8 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Profound failiure...I lost so many points. White has no territory though, if I get R15 I should still be comfortable

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:50 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Captured Stones: B:1 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O . X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X B X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think this move is way too small. You just let him capture your two stones in sente, and his follow-up wasn't big enough to worry about at this point. Meanwhile, you gain nothing all that interesting by forcing white to make his second eye which you already know he can make. Instead, R15 looks like a much better point - it peeks into white's area while securing the corner.

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:50 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm161 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . 9 . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:35 am
by tj86430
Not for players:
It would seem to me that black is still winning comfortably, provided that white can not reduce his top right too much. If that is the case, should he play something like R16 now?

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:08 am
by Aphelion
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm161 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . 0 . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . O . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I wish it didn't come to this...but even by the most pessimistic count I should be up 10-15 points. He also has to deal with the Q10 aji, whereas his living sequence at least ensured that all my weaknesses have been fixed. I will show a diagram when I get back from work.

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:02 am
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm171 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . O . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
as soon as i secure basic life..i will jump in 3-3 and make life again. if i live i win.

Re: 94: Magicwand (4d) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:18 am
by Aphelion
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm171 Captured Stones: B:2 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . X X , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X O . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X X . O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . O . . . . X . O . 2 . |
$$ | . O X X O O . O O X O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O . O O O X X X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O O X O X X O . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O X O X . X O O O X O . O O X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . X X X X O X X X . X O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O X O O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . O X . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X . O . O . X X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . O O X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O X X X O X X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Its clear as day to me that he needs to invade my territory in order to win. Isn't that the theme for the whole game? I'm taking this point first, I also think its bigger sente than his attachment. The side is also bigger than the center I think.
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