If you could play a game against any professional ....

General conversations about Go belong here.
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by DrStraw »

tj86430 wrote:
DrStraw wrote:
tj86430 wrote:Any professional is so much above my level, so it doesn't really matter. Therefore, I'd choose Shusaku, purely because of: http://senseis.xmp.net/?ShusakuNumber


I already have a Shusaku number

Me too (6), but I'd like to have a smaller one. ;-)


Ah, that's the catch. I think it is impossible for me to get a smaller one.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
Matti
Lives in gote
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:05 pm
Rank: 5 dan
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 41 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Matti »

DrStraw wrote:
tj86430 wrote:
DrStraw wrote:
I already have a Shusaku number

Me too (6), but I'd like to have a smaller one. ;-)


Ah, that's the catch. I think it is impossible for me to get a smaller one.

Why?
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by DrStraw »

Matti wrote:
DrStraw wrote:Ah, that's the catch. I think it is impossible for me to get a smaller one.

Why?


Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
Uberdude
Judan
Posts: 6727
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
Rank: UK 4 dan
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Location: Cambridge, UK
Has thanked: 436 times
Been thanked: 3718 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Uberdude »

How about a Shusaku number where a link only exists for beating the next up person in an even* game?

*no komi back in the day counts as even.
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by DrStraw »

Uberdude wrote:How about a Shusaku number where a link only exists for beating the next up person in an even* game?

*no komi back in the day counts as even.


I've often thought that is what it should be. But then how many who are not pros could claim one? Maybe by some circuituous route were saki was involved.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
User avatar
HermanHiddema
Gosei
Posts: 2011
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:08 am
Rank: Dutch 4D
GD Posts: 645
Universal go server handle: herminator
Location: Groningen, NL
Has thanked: 202 times
Been thanked: 1086 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by HermanHiddema »

DrStraw wrote:
Uberdude wrote:How about a Shusaku number where a link only exists for beating the next up person in an even* game?

*no komi back in the day counts as even.


I've often thought that is what it should be. But then how many who are not pros could claim one? Maybe by some circuituous route were saki was involved.


This exists, and is called a Winning Shusaku Number

Furthermore, the number is called "Pure" is the wins happened in chronological order, with each step further away from Shusaku happening later.

Everyone has one, but having one under 8 is rare for non-professionals.
User avatar
Tim C Koppang
Dies with sente
Posts: 77
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:43 am
GD Posts: 0
Location: Illinois
Been thanked: 41 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Tim C Koppang »

Sedol. He seems like a friendly guy. I love his style. Plus, he's old enough to make a chat about the current state of the pro circuit very interesting.
Matti
Lives in gote
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:05 pm
Rank: 5 dan
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 41 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Matti »

DrStraw wrote:
Matti wrote:
DrStraw wrote:Ah, that's the catch. I think it is impossible for me to get a smaller one.

Why?


Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.
User avatar
moyoaji
Lives in sente
Posts: 773
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:53 pm
Rank: KGS 1 kyu
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: moyoaji
Location: Michigan, USA
Has thanked: 143 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by moyoaji »

Kageyama Toshiro, without a doubt.

I would have loved to have met him when he was alive, but sadly he died just before I was born.
"You have to walk before you can run. Black 1 was a walking move.
I blushed inwardly to recall the ignorant thoughts that had gone through
my mind before, when I had not realized the true worth of Black 1."

-Kageyama Toshiro on proper moves
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by DrStraw »

Matti wrote:
DrStraw wrote:Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.


And who would that be? Who is alive now who played an opponent of Shusaku?
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
hyperpape
Tengen
Posts: 4382
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 4k
Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
Has thanked: 499 times
Been thanked: 727 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by hyperpape »

Since the question was "past or present", you could just play Shusaku, and therefore get 1, right?
Matti
Lives in gote
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:05 pm
Rank: 5 dan
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 41 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Matti »

DrStraw wrote:
Matti wrote:
DrStraw wrote:Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.


And who would that be? Who is alive now who played an opponent of Shusaku?

Sorry, it seems that I misread earlier:
tj86430 wrote:
DrStraw wrote:
I already have a Shusaku number

Me too (6), but I'd like to have a smaller one. ;-)

and I thought you were the one who wanted to have a lower number than 6.
hyperpape
Tengen
Posts: 4382
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 4k
Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
Has thanked: 499 times
Been thanked: 727 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by hyperpape »

I misread in exactly the same way.
User avatar
pitirre
Dies in gote
Posts: 52
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:14 pm
Rank: 5k
GD Posts: 0
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by pitirre »

Takemiya masaki
si no puedes triunfar, muere gloriosamente
Kirby
Honinbo
Posts: 9553
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
Has thanked: 1583 times
Been thanked: 1707 times

Re: If you could play a game against any professional ....

Post by Kirby »

If this were a realistic opportunity, I'd do the research to find the least skilled pro player - maybe the pro player with the most losses. Or the player who hasn't played the game in the longest amount of time - or maybe some combination of these factors.

Since they're still a pro player, I'd surely lose the game. But maybe I could come closer to winning than against one of the top players in the world.
be immersed
Post Reply