Re: Handling approach on both side
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:39 am
Thank you Bill and Ed for all this material !
so... before I saw all this, I started to think about that first question :
):
but when placing a few real stone on the goban, I saw that
isn't that great
white
at 'a' doesn't work that well either... so I think my first fear to be cut by isn't justified.
Now to the quality of
here :
We talked a bit about this move at the end of the game with a stronger player (~3k) and he also told us that this was no a so good idea.
but... that was at least a move I was not used to... I think I would have played better if white played this one for example :
This a move a better know how to answer, especialy with a san-ren-sei, because I used to read pattern of the san-ren-sei and this move is taled in detail in this book.
I'm also quite confortable with at 'b', but a bit less with 'a'.
To summarize :
So what I learned here is that this "snake" to the center is not "always" a bad idea, especially if both opponent groups on sides are weak.
Then, looking at Bill's variations, the key seems to be in fighting
instead of just trying to live like I did in the game (where I also misreaded a false eye)
Finally to come back to that 'a', I'm working on a Joseki I saw in a french book by fan-hui which is called "Cinq Proverbes" and that goes like this :
but I still don't understand each of the move... especially
... joseki and problems in this book are not that commented, some concept are presented, and then you have to work them by your own (which I like 
...)
so... before I saw all this, I started to think about that first question :
and the first answer that went into my mind for white was to cut (maybe I'm traumatisedEdLee wrote: did you consider the hane?
):but when placing a few real stone on the goban, I saw that
isn't that greatwhite
at 'a' doesn't work that well either... so I think my first fear to be cut by isn't justified.Now to the quality of
here :We talked a bit about this move at the end of the game with a stronger player (~3k) and he also told us that this was no a so good idea.
but... that was at least a move I was not used to... I think I would have played better if white played this one for example :
This a move a better know how to answer, especialy with a san-ren-sei, because I used to read pattern of the san-ren-sei and this move is taled in detail in this book.
I'm also quite confortable with
at 'b', but a bit less with 'a'.To summarize :
So what I learned here is that this "snake" to the center is not "always" a bad idea, especially if both opponent groups on sides are weak.
Then, looking at Bill's variations, the key seems to be in fighting
instead of just trying to live like I did in the game (where I also misreaded a false eye)Finally to come back to that 'a', I'm working on a Joseki I saw in a french book by fan-hui which is called "Cinq Proverbes" and that goes like this :
but I still don't understand each of the move... especially
... joseki and problems in this book are not that commented, some concept are presented, and then you have to work them by your own (which I like ...)
. 
is wrong... should be inside at T18 is it ? [/EDIT]