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Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:07 am
by Bill Spight
Uberdude wrote:I am surprised someone as skilled as Bantari works at a company where people are not judged on how much work they get done but how long they spend defecating. ;-)
So the discussion has moved to cow chips now? :D

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:08 am
by gowan
I am retired but I would not want to be chipped. I can see that chipping ID may make for more security for access by employees. I would think that fingerprint and retinal scans would be sufficient, though. As for tracking time spent in the loo or at the water cooler, it could be done by gps embedded in the usual badges.

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:09 pm
by LocoRon
I'm not fundamentally opposed to advances in technology, but... what is the actual benefit of this? Being able to unlock a door without the usual key or keycard? In this case, the supposed benefit doesn't even approach the costs (surgery, potential health concerns, etc.). I'll stick with "old school" technologies like keys and keycards, thanks.

I would be interested in reading whether or not the proponents of these chips have actually considered how secure this approach is (e.g., does it somehow prevent cloning the RFID signal).

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:43 pm
by sybob
Over my dead body!

What a control society we have become.
Who has access to which data, and for what purpose?
What use is it to know who has been a few minutes to the coffee machine (most productive time at most companies!) or the bathroom?

We live in a creative, knowledge based society, where people are (also/mainly) paid for creativity and knowledge, not for presence.

I have worked in a very, very tightly controlled environment. Extra control in that setting would be out of bounce IMHO. I am also thinking of potential misuse (by whom?), of potential business and competition issues, of mental and financial effects, and of matters of personal and physical integrity. And if it is about trying to prevent people from making mistakes or wrongdoing, there are better ways. People who want to misuse company facilities will find a way anyway. What's wrong with a key, computerized acces or other means?

No, thanks.

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:58 am
by Splatted
Would I like to become a cyborg capable of opening locked doors with a wave of my hand? Yes. Yes I think I would.

Seriously though if it achieved widespread adoption I can't imagine it not resulting in scanners everywhere and various Google analytics style information sharing services. Paranoia or not I can't say I'd like that.

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:19 am
by DrStraw
Splatted wrote:Would I like to become a cyborg capable of opening locked doors with a wave of my hand? Yes. Yes I think I would.

Seriously though if it achieved widespread adoption I can't imagine it not resulting in scanners everywhere and various Google analytics style information sharing services. Paranoia or not I can't say I'd like that.
People would start wearing shielding gloves just like they keep their credit cards in little card shields.

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:41 am
by Fedya
Gowan:

There's a scene in the movie version of Diamonds Are Forever in which Bond gets around fingerprint ID by something on the order of a scan of the fingerprint scotch taped to his finger.

Not that that's quite realistic, of course; the more important thing is that there are going to be people working on beating fingerprint and iris ID. And once they violate your biometric information, where are you going to get a new identity?

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:49 pm
by sybob
ddseo1115a wrote:that is good suggestions.
Hi addseo1115,
What do you mean?
1- the first posting: chipping? Do you think that is a good suggestion?
2- other postings: the comments mentioned in replies with their suggestions con chipping?
2.1- the posting above you (mine): my dead body?
2.2- the posting above you (mine): do you mean you think i came up with some good suggestions?

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ddseo1115a was a spammer. He has been deleted.
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Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:03 pm
by hyperpape
Uberdude wrote:I am surprised someone as skilled as Bantari works at a company where people are not judged on how much work they get done but how long they spend defecating. ;-)
Sadly: https://mobile.twitter.com/mipsytipsy/s ... 9363311616

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:19 pm
by Uberdude
sybob, addseo1115 probably didn't mean anything as that user is probably a spam bot that posts computer generated waffle and links.

Re: Would you like to be chipped?

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:02 am
by SoDesuNe
Fedya wrote:And once they violate your biometric information, where are you going to get a new identity?
Well, Tom Cruise just got new eyes in The Minority Report ; )