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Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:23 am
by Horibe
Bantari wrote:xed_over wrote:Bantari wrote:I would like to see the info simply put on the website somewhere ...
it is
http://www.usgo.org/news/
Lol. Shows how much I know.
Then why bother sending it to people on top of that?
There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:26 am
by Bantari
Horibe wrote:There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.
Huh?
I know the ejournal is provided to tons of non-members!
Me included.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:33 am
by shimari
Dr. Straw, if you prefer a different format, go all the way to the end of the e-mail and click on the link that says "Display in Browser." You will get the full text, and all the photos, displayed as a webpage, on the main site, with the regular AGA formatting.
Bantari - The members edition contains commented games every week. These are often professional games, and they are commented by top pros like Michael Redmond. This content alone is worth the upgrade to full AGA membership, in my opinion.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:33 am
by Kirby
Bantari wrote:Horibe wrote:There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.
Huh?
I know the ejournal is provided to tons of non-members!
Me included.
The "Members only edition" occasionally provides go problems and pro commentary. With the old version, this was done via email attachment. Now, they provide web links to such material.
However, if I am not mistaken, it's just a link, and non-members can view the content, too, if they have the link.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:29 pm
by DrStraw
gowan wrote:I guess we're making progress. When the E-Journal first started people were ranking on it because it wasn't a normal printed-on-paper magazine. Now it seems the electronic medium has been accepted and people are complaining about the format
The new format isn't so bad IMO but it could be made easier to navigate, say by using different colors or bold face type to make it easier to identify what's in the different sections.
Not true. One of the several reason I finally dropped out of the AGA was the lack of a printed journal. I found the e-journal annoying and hard to read and I certainly couldn't read it in bed as I used to like to. But at least the old format was all in one place so I could scan it, even though I rarely read it all. Now I cannot even do that.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:34 pm
by DrStraw
shimari wrote:Bantari - The members edition contains commented games every week. These are often professional games, and they are commented by top pros like Michael Redmond. This content alone is worth the upgrade to full AGA membership, in my opinion.
On the contrary. Once they went to an Ejournal I never looked at the games. I used to enjoy looking over them in the printed version but I dislike looking through games in an SGF viewer. It just doesn't have the same feel as seeing it on a printed page.
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:38 pm
by daniel_the_smith
Clearly, you need an iPad
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:46 pm
by Kirby
DrStraw wrote:shimari wrote:Bantari - The members edition contains commented games every week. These are often professional games, and they are commented by top pros like Michael Redmond. This content alone is worth the upgrade to full AGA membership, in my opinion.
On the contrary. Once they went to an Ejournal I never looked at the games. I used to enjoy looking over them in the printed version but I dislike looking through games in an SGF viewer. It just doesn't have the same feel as seeing it on a printed page.
I wasn't a member when they printed the journal on paper (which is what seems to be implied here), but I agree with the sentiment. I actually had a bit of discussion about this over email with Allan A., the current AGA president. He said that the cost of mailing it out would be on the order of $10,000 a year, so it wasn't feasible to print out hard copies.
I wonder if you could pay an extra $5 or so a year for membership in order to pay for the postage of a monthly hardcopy (depending on where your mailing address was).
Re: Am I the only one annoyed with the E0journal format?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:57 pm
by deja
Why not a simple PDF that is nicely formatted and can be downloaded? It gives people the choice of reading it electronically or printing a hard copy out and reading it in bed.
Edit: it would be a newsletter and I would certainly volunteer my time to produce it. That way, Chris could deflect all the formatting complaints on me.
Ok, bad idea...