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Re: Confused about scoring

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:10 am
by Bill Spight
Hi, cel70. Welcome to go! :)

You have gotten some good advice. Let me just add a comment or two. :)

You are having trouble telling which stones are alive or dead. That is normal for a beginner. And let me assure you that even players much stronger than you sometimes have that kind of problem, too. Usually because they think that some stones are alive that can be killed or captured.

The good news is that it won't take too long before you will be able to tell which stones are alive or dead at the end of the game with great accuracy. For now, you should just play on until the status of every stone seems clear to you. And make sure that all the dame are filled, except in seki, OC.

Doing so may cost you some points by Japanese (territory) scoring, but learning to tell which stones are dead is more important. If that bothers you, you can play by Chinese (area) scoring.

Let me illustrate with your last diagram. I suppose that it is Black's turn, either because White just passed, or because Black has captured one White stone. There are still dame on the board.


Re: Confused about scoring

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:33 am
by xed_over
cel70 wrote: If I'd stuck with Aya I think I'd be banging my head on the keyboard in frustration. So I'll invest in a better program, or even play online.
There's nothing wrong with Aya.

As Bill illustrates, the game status was still in an ambiguous state (which is why Aya was confused and didn't know how to score the game properly). Depending on your continued play, the game could still go either way.

I would suspect that the programs that leichtloeslich recommended would have the same, or at least similar problems with the same position. Not to mention that you probably can't install those as easily on your phone -- making "better" relative.

Re: Confused about scoring

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:23 am
by Schachus
Sorry, I didnt look carefully...

But still, :b7: at 1-2 would be another reason, why :w4: in the lecond variation is bad