Life In 19x19

Temp wrote: BigDoug was the admin that did it.

Temp wrote:I think the real reason I was IP banned was because a few people were complaining and sticking up for me after he posted that no one could see my chat and that I was banned from the room. To scare people into silence he made an example out of me by banning me.

Temp wrote:I don't understand why the user base puts up with heavy handed admins.

arndt wrote:I am also an admin on KGS.

If you tell us what your nickname was, and when this happened, then we can look in the logs and try to find out more about what happened.

Solomon wrote:

Temp wrote:I'm around 3kyu KGS, what should I register for on Tygem? Are all the servers equal in rankings? My strength seems to fluctuate a lot. I was beating 3-4 Kyus pretty easy, but then 1 kyu would destroy me easy, Didn't make sense to me. I also seem to mess up a lot in the beginning with joseki and a lot of times I'm playing from behind due to screwing up the first corner. But they say don't study Joseki. I do go to Josekipedia to see the mistake I made, but I'm not sure it's sticking since I don't study it. Not even sure how to study it without attempting to memorize it.

I would try 1d on Tygem. All servers are not equal in rankings, but Tygem seems to be around 2-3 stones inflated than KGS.

Temp wrote:

Solomon wrote:

Temp wrote:I'm around 3kyu KGS, what should I register for on Tygem? Are all the servers equal in rankings? My strength seems to fluctuate a lot. I was beating 3-4 Kyus pretty easy, but then 1 kyu would destroy me easy, Didn't make sense to me. I also seem to mess up a lot in the beginning with joseki and a lot of times I'm playing from behind due to screwing up the first corner. But they say don't study Joseki. I do go to Josekipedia to see the mistake I made, but I'm not sure it's sticking since I don't study it. Not even sure how to study it without attempting to memorize it.

I would try 1d on Tygem. All servers are not equal in rankings, but Tygem seems to be around 2-3 stones inflated than KGS.

You said that there were pros on Tygem. Are the people with (P) after their name and 9dan pros? Or is that just a stone stronger than 9 dan because of the rank difference?

Uberdude wrote:OGS is not such a haven of bliss anymore (if it ever was), as they also have some abrasive and argumentative admins now. I wonder if that's a universal feature of internet communities, once they get to a certain size you end up with trigger-happy admins on power trips. There's probably sociology papers about it.

There is a widely accepted point of view that because virtual space is not hierarchical
[3], it is inherently democratic and politically unbiased, and therefore members of virtual
organisations can exercise freedom unavailable in the real world, stratified and burdened
with traditional power and authority structures [29]. According to this view, the Internet
application becomes political only when politicians and large businesses use it for political
games and imposition of power.
In fact, the processes for establishing power relations are imbedded in the communitybuilding
process itself. This paper reports research which suggests that this holds true even
in the cyber communities established for “fun” with no economic incentives, competition,
or explicit political purpose. While there is a considerable degree of negotiation and renegotiation
of one’s status, all attributes of stratification, hierarchy, and power practice can
be observed in virtual organisations. There is a hierarchy of members in different roles
or positions, with access to resources and decision making (novice and expert, respected
authority, ordinary member, moderator, manager, owner of the discussion thread, informal
leader, dissident) [10]

Marcel Grünauer wrote:KGS' heavy-handed admins are legendary;

Uberdude wrote:OGS is not such a haven of bliss anymore (if it ever was), as they also have some abrasive and argumentative admins now. I wonder if that's a universal feature of internet communities, once they get to a certain size you end up with trigger-happy admins on power trips. There's probably sociology papers about it.

Marcel Grünauer wrote:This says something about the KGS admin cabal.

Uberdude wrote:OGS is not such a haven of bliss anymore (if it ever was), as they also have some abrasive and argumentative admins now. I wonder if that's a universal feature of internet communities, once they get to a certain size you end up with trigger-happy admins on power trips. There's probably sociology papers about it.

Bill Spight wrote:

Uberdude wrote:OGS is not such a haven of bliss anymore (if it ever was), as they also have some abrasive and argumentative admins now. I wonder if that's a universal feature of internet communities, once they get to a certain size you end up with trigger-happy admins on power trips. There's probably sociology papers about it.

Didn't happen to us at Participate on the Source, back in the '80s. And our culture was more Wild West than the internet has become. As for size, we had 1500 active members. Not sure what the difference was.

Celebrir wrote:

Bill Spight wrote:

Uberdude wrote:OGS is not such a haven of bliss anymore (if it ever was), as they also have some abrasive and argumentative admins now. I wonder if that's a universal feature of internet communities, once they get to a certain size you end up with trigger-happy admins on power trips. There's probably sociology papers about it.

Didn't happen to us at Participate on the Source, back in the '80s. And our culture was more Wild West than the internet has become. As for size, we had 1500 active members. Not sure what the difference was.

Maybe still the size. According to their login page, OGS has 216,912 members with 778 online at the same time. Sure, some of the 216,912 players should be inactive,but I don't believe that there are 215,412 inactive members

Bantari wrote:

Marcel Grünauer wrote:KGS' heavy-handed admins are legendary;

You must be very young or new to all this.
No offense, but it just struck me like the right thing to say here.