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Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:42 am
by Katharsys
HKA wrote:Welcome! Can I assume that you are responsible for a certain little blue (and occasionally green) book that was quite essential back in the pre-internet days?
Is that blue book you're referencing have to do with the 3-3 point?!
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:22 pm
by Charles Matthews
Katharsys wrote:HKA wrote:Welcome! Can I assume that you are responsible for a certain little blue (and occasionally green) book that was quite essential back in the pre-internet days?
Is that blue book you're referencing have to do with the 3-3 point?!
No - the book reviewed here:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?GOInternational ... DictionaryA "go to" in the early days, when Ishi Press books were dense with Japanese jargon, and one could navigate Japanese problem books with around 15
kanji (mostly).
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:21 am
by John Tilley
I seemed to have kicked off quite an interesting thread! - many thanks for all the kind words of welcome. We live near Winchester in the UK, which is some 60 miles south-west of London. I am now secretary of the Winchester Go Club.
Yes the fashions then were "different" - I might have some old kipper ties somewhere still, I am open for offers. Maybe prizes at a tournament, first prize 1 tie, second prize 2 ties...
Go in the 1960s and 1970s was quite challenging! - very few books, no lessons and "everyman for himself". I remember Richard Bozulich passing through the London Go Club (then at The Pontefract Castle) en route to Japan to start publishing go books. I am guessing it was summer 1967. The early Ishi Press books focused on joseki and fuseki and I think steered me into studying the wrong things! It is worth remembering how strong Jurgen Mattern was then and he had exactly the same materials as everyone else. I also remember playing Matthew McFadyen for the first time in January 1975, he was 2kyu.
I would describe my style of 1970 as good shape, too focused on territory, not aware of forcing moves - the Ishi Press hadn't published "The Elementary Series" then - so no "Attack and Defense". We bought books in Japanese to study - there were a few advertised in Go Review. Friends at The Nihon Kiin felt that I should adopt a more aggressive style and I was given a copy of "Honinbo Shusai Complete Games" in 6 volumes by one of the editors. We sat down and he produced a list of 50 suggested games to study.
One of the things that I did do, was to record all my tournamant games for 5 years and study them. Two of them were commented on in Go Review. I also recorded a good number of teaching games in Japan (typically 7 stones) with comments and also some ren Go at Iwamoto's salon on a Sunday. Sadly I didn't record my 4 stone game against Kawabata Yasunari at the Saturday Kitani club in Yotsuya and neither did I record the ren Go with Nakamura Kuniko (now 2p), Segoe (9p) and Iwamoto's daughter.
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:42 am
by Nyanjilla
Oh my.... nostalgia.
The lack of go-related material in English started me on studying Japanese, back then.
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:46 pm
by DrStraw
Nyanjilla wrote:Oh my.... nostalgia.
The lack of go-related material in English started me on studying Japanese, back then.
Me too. And it could not have worked out better. I met my wife in Japanese class!
Nice to hear John's stories. It was several years later when I started but the stories of studying in Britain sound familiar. Except that I never got to Japan.

Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:01 am
by Drew
DrStraw wrote:Except that I never got to Japan.

It's still there, friend. Why not have a try?

Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:23 am
by DrStraw
Drew wrote:DrStraw wrote:Except that I never got to Japan.

It's still there, friend. Why not have a try?

I don't fly and I am not that good a swimmer. Anyway, I don't care that much for radiation.
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:59 am
by Uberdude
DrStraw wrote:Drew wrote:DrStraw wrote:Except that I never got to Japan.

It's still there, friend. Why not have a try?

I don't fly and I am not that good a swimmer. Anyway, I don't care that much for radiation.
So did you get the boat from the UK to the US all those years ago?
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:33 am
by DrStraw
Uberdude wrote:DrStraw wrote:Drew wrote:It's still there, friend. Why not have a try?

I don't fly and I am not that good a swimmer. Anyway, I don't care that much for radiation.
So did you get the boat from the UK to the US all those years ago?
Back then I did fly. But I've not be on a plane in almost 20 years.
Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:02 pm
by skydyr
DrStraw wrote:Uberdude wrote:DrStraw wrote:
I don't fly and I am not that good a swimmer. Anyway, I don't care that much for radiation.
So did you get the boat from the UK to the US all those years ago?
Back then I did fly. But I've not be on a plane in almost 20 years.
Flying is like riding a bicycle... it's very hard to forget how.

Re: Getting back into Go
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:32 pm
by DrStraw
skydyr wrote:DrStraw wrote:Uberdude wrote:
So did you get the boat from the UK to the US all those years ago?
Back then I did fly. But I've not be on a plane in almost 20 years.
Flying is like riding a bicycle... it's very hard to forget how.

That's the problem. I remember what it is like. Therefore I don't do it.