Life In 19x19

0-sided: no player can occupy without loss, 1-sided: exactly one player can occupy without loss, 2-sided: either player can occupy without loss. Teire: see Sensei's Library.

The solution is simple - always play the dame. This will, at least in my experience, result in KGS not messing up the score.

It has added benefits. It prepares you for tournament play, and gives you experience in dame filled situations that I find KGS players up to 2d miss.

Also, it gives you experience with a new type of abuse, as people complain about wasting their time while they pass and make it take longer.

Don't get over tangled in the intricacies of scoring. You did the right thing.

betoacosta wrote: What are the ethics of going back after the count? My intuition is that it is not acceptable (thus my resignation). But would like to know.

I don't really get the talk about "ethics"... I don't play much on KGS, but on Tygem it happens very frequently that my opponents go back and try something after scoring, if they lost. This is just part of life, and I would never ever resign because they do it! There is also a feature "Ask for draw" which some people try to use when they are behind... of course I never let them.

wineandgolover wrote:

Kirby wrote:Who cares about ethics on KGS, anyway? Don't tell me you have qualms about escapers, too!

Hey Kirby,

Not everybody will be able to read your humor/sarcasm here. Hopefully, post-AG, we've picked up new board members, but they'll have no idea of your (or anybody's) history on KGS.

Heh! Maybe I need to add some sort of comedy drum roll to the end of my posts. Buh-dum-dum-dah!

wineandgolover wrote:The real point is that betoacosta passed, then realized during scoring that he could have won, and resigned anyway. Classy move, imho.

The less classy approach which I came up with the other day: somehow convince your opponent that their bent-four in the corner (with two of my stones in the middle of it, even) was in seki and should count as alive. Not only did I give them an odd sort of victory, I gave them a source of confusion that could last for who-knows how long!

(This was not, to be clear, intentional mendacity--I was convinced too. I like to think I know better! Oops. Such are the hazards of ddkville.)

amb wrote:convince your opponent that their bent-four in the corner (with two of my stones in the middle of it, even) was in seki and should count as alive. Not only did I give them an odd sort of victory, I gave them a source of confusion that could last for who-knows how long!

(This was not, to be clear, intentional mendacity--I was convinced too. I like to think I know better! Oops. Such are the hazards of ddkville.)

Hi amb,

Were you then and are you sure now it was indeed bent-4 and not seki ?
In SOME cases, the two are off by just one stone!