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Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 11:09 pm
by erislover
Setting up alternate boards with this joseki does not usually favor this weird descent, but there's no question that crazystone does not see this clamp; though once the clamp is made, it can see the disaster. It sees the clamp after the atari at G6, but this seems like a bad exchange.
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:01 am
by johnsmith
erislover wrote:Setting up alternate boards with this joseki does not usually favor this weird descent, but there's no question that crazystone does not see this clamp; though once the clamp is made, it can see the disaster. It sees the clamp after the atari at G6, but this seems like a bad exchange.
What's funny is that it saw the right combination in game 4 of LSD-AlphaGo.

and generally CS has the similar estimate compared to the estimate AlphaGo made! (if you have those leaked graphs)
There is one more joseki I noticed in which it makes a mistake very often. It's a pity that Hajin played one of 2 josekis unknown to CS. Also, CS first edition also needs more thinking time for the endgame, but besides that, opening and everything else seems legit and reasonably strong even for 6d KGS:)
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:23 pm
by Satorian
I've given the game an 8h analysis on my 4790k in CS:DL. It really does seem like the parameters were a bit off for the match, as this self-analysis confirms the blunders.
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:46 am
by Monadology
Satorian wrote:I've given the game an 8h analysis on my 4790k in CS:DL. It really does seem like the parameters were a bit off for the match, as this self-analysis confirms the blunders.
Did you manually make the .sgf with the analysis information or is there a way to get CS:DL to create an .sgf with the analysis info in it? I've tried finding a way but no luck so far.
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 11:09 am
by Satorian
Monadology wrote:Satorian wrote:I've given the game an 8h analysis on my 4790k in CS:DL. It really does seem like the parameters were a bit off for the match, as this self-analysis confirms the blunders.
Did you manually make the .sgf with the analysis information or is there a way to get CS:DL to create an .sgf with the analysis info in it? I've tried finding a way but no luck so far.
I've adapted this Python script to my liking:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 23#p204523
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 pm
by Monadology
Satorian wrote:Monadology wrote:Satorian wrote:I've given the game an 8h analysis on my 4790k in CS:DL. It really does seem like the parameters were a bit off for the match, as this self-analysis confirms the blunders.
Did you manually make the .sgf with the analysis information or is there a way to get CS:DL to create an .sgf with the analysis info in it? I've tried finding a way but no luck so far.
I've adapted this Python script to my liking:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 23#p204523
Thanks! I totally overlooked that thread.
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:09 am
by d7urban
Monadology wrote:Satorian wrote:I've given the game an 8h analysis on my 4790k in CS:DL. It really does seem like the parameters were a bit off for the match, as this self-analysis confirms the blunders.
Did you manually make the .sgf with the analysis information or is there a way to get CS:DL to create an .sgf with the analysis info in it? I've tried finding a way but no luck so far.
There are at least two scripts out there that does this. I like this one:
https://github.com/fohristiwhirl/crazys ... sis_to_sgf
Re: Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyS
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:00 pm
by splee99
In the analysis, CS prefers more solid moves at some occasions, but also prefers other crazy moves, such as O12 over D11. As Hajin Lee explained D11 is OK, but tenuki in this area may be crazy, I think.