Life In 19x19

henric wrote:La Réunion is to all effects a part of France I think?

Yes, but it's still not part of Europe as a continent.

tj86430 wrote:

henric wrote:La Réunion is to all effects a part of France I think?

Yes, but it's still not part of Europe as a continent.

While we are there
* UTC (time-wise), a Go club just some meters west of Greenwich could be the 'latest' one (new category).
* to the west: Aruba, Bonnaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustachius, St. Martin;
I didn't follow it closely in the Newspapers, yet Saba and St. Eustachius in the Carribbeans - with both only some hundred inhabitants -
will get (have already?) the status of Dutch province (please correct me where I am wrong).

Again, that's not Europe as defined by a continent.
Malta, Kreta, Cyprus, 2 Spanish enclaves in Morrocco for the south?

Also, we can add:

Highest go club. (Somewhere in the Alps?)

Lowest go club. (Probably one of the below sea level Dutch ones, like Almere).

HermanHiddema wrote:below sea level

Although I know what you mean, I immediately remembered this: http://www.divemagazine.co.uk/news/arti ... 1332178208

willemien wrote:for the west end:

Is Island not further west than mainland Portugal?

(What would mean that Reykjavík the most western is)

Or is there a go club on the Azores?

also in the old days Greenland was part of Denmark does that make it part of Europe?

(Or is this an useless question because there is no go club there?)

There's a Go club in Reykjavik (I receive their newsletters, which I only half-understand in preparation to an undetermined point in the future when I move to Iceland), making it the most westernly place to play Go in what uses to be considered "Europe" (unless there is a club in the Azores). As far as this goes, I assume Iceland (and Greenland to a minor extenct) have to be considered as part of "continental Europe". On the other hand, in our Iceland guide, Snaefellsness (the tip of Iceland to the west) is considered the westernmost point in Europe (as an anecdote, we had to change tires there )

RBerenguel wrote: (unless there is a club in the Azores)

No club in Azores that I know of. The farthest I know of is a player in Madeira.

Edit: Also, yes, there is a confirmed club in Lisbon.

Well, Spain has the Canary Islands, and they have Go clubs (http://go-fio.es/) so this might be the southest.... and probably also the westest of the European Union (since there is no go club in Azores Islands).

But if we take, only mainland Europe... probably the westest is some Portugese one, and the southest should be an Andalusian one, in Malaga (http://gomalaga.es/), or mine in Granada (https://sites.google.com/site/clubtsuke/).

Ellyster wrote:Well, Spain has the Canary Islands, and they have Go clubs (http://go-fio.es/) so this might be the southest.... and probably also the westest of the European Union (since there is no go club in Azores Islands).
(https://sites.google.com/site/clubtsuke/).

I didn't check coordinates, but Iceland is GMT-1 and Canary Islands is GMT, Reykjavik has a Go club, too (igo.is IIRC) which should be Easternmost (not yet in the EU, though)

Remember, if you're counting the political unit "Europe" rather than the geographic area "Europe," France has departments all over the world, so I don't think the Canary Islands have a chance however you slice the question.

RBerenguel wrote:

Ellyster wrote:Well, Spain has the Canary Islands, and they have Go clubs (http://go-fio.es/) so this might be the southest.... and probably also the westest of the European Union (since there is no go club in Azores Islands).
(https://sites.google.com/site/clubtsuke/).

I didn't check coordinates, but Iceland is GMT-1 and Canary Islands is GMT, Reykjavik has a Go club, too (igo.is IIRC) which should be Easternmost (not yet in the EU, though)

Don't trust the GTM... because in Spain we are not in the one that should (traditions vs geography), we should be GTM and Canary Island should be GTM-1. May be close, we should look for the coordinates.

RBerenguel wrote:Remember, if you're counting the political unit "Europe" rather than the geographic area "Europe," France has departments all over the world, so I don't think the Canary Islands have a chance however you slice the question.

Yeah, you are right, I wasn't counting overseas colonies, my count was only Europe + Islands... I don't know if we can count the Canary Islands as in geographic area "Europe", since we are counting with Iceland that is even further away from mainland (and closer to Greenland) XD

We should define the maximun distancy valid.

Ellyster wrote:

RBerenguel wrote:I didn't check coordinates, but Iceland is GMT-1 and Canary Islands is GMT, Reykjavik has a Go club, too (igo.is IIRC) which should be Easternmost (not yet in the EU, though)

Don't trust the GTM... because in Spain we are not in the one that should (traditions vs geography), we should be GTM and Canary Island should be GTM-1. May be close, we should look for the coordinates.

Well, Reykjavik is 5º ahead of Tenerife, so it is westmost.

Ellyster wrote:Yeah, you are right, I wasn't counting overseas colonies, my count was only Europe + Islands... I don't know if we can count the Canary Islands as in geographic area "Europe", since we are counting with Iceland that is even further away from mainland (and closer to Greenland) XD

We should define the maximun distancy valid.

Iceland shares territory among European and American tectonic plates (they split in Þingvellir,) but Wikipedia does not help with where the Canary Icelands belong in their main article, but this plate map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg shows that the Islands are in the African plate. Here's a zoom of the Iceland area: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_Ridge