Life In 19x19

Bonobo wrote:Most OGS-related stuff I’d actually prefer seeing discussed over there in the OGS forum b/c that’s where the probability is higher that the staff will read it, but there will always be people who’d rather want to talk about it elsewhere.

I am not really an OGS user, so my opinion probably does not count as much as yours, but still - I disagree. I think we should try to consolidate english-language discussion rather then splinter it. I honestly wish there was no OGS forum and all the discussion would take place here instead of there. Would also be a much stronger argument for creating an OGS sub-forum on L19.

I get your point about bigger chance of devs and admins reading the OGS forum, but... I see no reason the devs and admins cannot as easily follow a sub-forum here as they do the OGS forum. Or does the OGS forum offer important features that L19 does not have? In any case - having a separate OGS forum is a choice, not a necessity. And a bad and harmful choice, I think.

As for concrete and practical reasons for the above, there are many. It would lessen the need for site-jumping for lazy people like me. As it is, I look at L19, reddit, rgg, and some more stuff, just for Go talk. I would much rather it was all neatly in one place, and I really dislike aggregators.

Another reason might be advertising. Posting about OGS in OGS forum does not give much exposure - its like preaching to the choir. Having threads about it where non-OGS people can easily read is would be nice. Just imagine how much good it would look for the OGS if people could (more) easily see threads like asking devs/admins for help and seeing this help being offered in timely and polite fashion! I bet this would be a drawing point. Especially compared to the IGS/KGS response (or lack thereof.)

And personally - pretty much the only time I go to OGS these days is when I read something interesting about it here and go there to check it out. Or to check out some new feature or something. Would probably never go there at all if not for the occasional post on L19. There are possibly others like me. And every time somebody goes there who does not usually go there - its an opportunity for a new customer. Why waste it?

etc.

You guys make excellent points. OGS has been the fastest-growing English-language server for a while now, it makes no sense to keep Kaya.gs's forum around for years after its demise, but to ignore the biggest new player. I agree that the existence of an active forum on OGS itself shouldn't really matter - they're mostly focused on very narrow tech-support type stuff, and it's a separate community we have going here anyway.

So, it's up now! I've created the OGS subforum, and I'll remove the Kaya.gs one once everyone has had a chance to read this thread. (The threads themselves will still be available in the morgue, don't worry!). I'll move some of the recent threads from other boards that obviously would have been posted on the OGS subforum if one had existed at the time.

I don't think non-admin users can see the morgue, can they?