Predict AlphaGo on Future of Go Summit in Wuzhen, China

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Who would win?

AlphaGo win against both Ke Jie and Chinese team
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87%
AlphaGo lost against Ke Jie but win against Chinese team
2
4%
AlphaGo win against Ke Jie but lost against Chinese team
3
6%
AlphaGo lost on both event
2
4%
 
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That would be very bad, I've my parents and my brother depend on my income.
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pookpooi wrote:That would be very bad, I've my parents and my brother depend on my income.
Become a lumberjack. The CIA pays them quite well apparently.

http://gizmodo.com/north-korea-thinks-t ... 1794950500

These Koreans are utterly unhinged. I'm afraid not even Go can help them.
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hmm, dont know if i would fancy being a lumberjack (trees, Right to Life and all that) - although, it would curry favour with the FBI as both they and Michael Palin are cross-dressers. Still, for all i know, pooki may be a girl - she certainly has a girl's attention to detail - so it would be a piece of cake for her. And you could make gobans out of them, so yes, it would be a good idea. You just have to move to Canada, or Finland, where they still grow trees; all the others have been cut down to make way for oil palms to power the generators to feed the hungry dog.

PS i have to correct ewan on one minor point: it was probably the Koreans that introduced civilisation to China, because human migration moved northwards from Ethiopia, or am i getting my geography mixed up?

either way, it was the Koreans who invaded Japan first, even before the Americans and Portuguese (dont know about the Filipinos though, they are very excellent sailors - or maybe it was the bogeymen from Bugis land?). Just ask any Ainu and they will tell you.
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djhbrown wrote:hmm, dont know if i would fancy being a lumberjack (trees, Right to Life and all that) - although, it would curry favour with the FBI as both they and Michael Palin are cross-dressers. Still, for all i know, pooki may be a girl - she certainly has a girl's attention to detail - so it would be a piece of cake for her. And you could make gobans out of them, so yes, it would be a good idea. You just have to move to Canada, or Finland, where they still grow trees; all the others have been cut down to make way for oil palms to power the generators to feed the hungry dog.

PS i have to correct ewan on one minor point: it was probably the Koreans that introduced civilisation to China, because human migration moved northwards from Ethiopia, or am i getting my geography mixed up?

either way, it was the Koreans who invaded Japan first, even before the Americans and Portuguese (dont know about the Filipinos though, they are very excellent sailors - or maybe it was the bogeymen from Bugis land?). Just ask any Ainu and they will tell you.
Modern humans migrated out of Africa, with some of them settling in Anatolia for a time before moving onto other places. An earlier migration out of Africa took a more southernly route, via the sea and populated various Indian Ocean and Pacific islands such as Maldives, Indonesia, Malaysia, so on and on.

So to answer your question, in general humans migrated from south to north. The Koreans however are a special case, the Young General Kim Jong-un would have you believe.

Koreans are a pure blooded people descended from bears(?), nay, from a god-like race residing on Mount Paektu since time immemorial. Therefore, it's only natural that Koreans were the first race, the source of all knowledge and civlization, and all that is good and pure, so on and on.

So ignore all the archeological evidence of Koreans living in caves and drinking from streams with their cupped hands prior to their contact with the Chinese civilization. That's all Western imperialist hogwash. Without the Kim Family, there would be no civilization.
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more to the point, without the Kims, there would be no Kim Chee, and then where would we be? living off overboiled English cabbage, about as tasty as Alphago
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djhbrown wrote:more to the point, without the Kims, there would be no Kim Chee, and then where would we be? living off overboiled English cabbage, about as tasty as Alphago
Without the Kims, there would be... nothing, and no man needs nothing. Koreans, and specifically the Kims, are responsible for all that is good and quite possibly creation itself.

Did you know that Jesus was Korean, and so was Confucius? Koreans also invented anime, video games, Chinese characters, the game of Go, automobiles, telescopes, stethoscopes, microscopes, bowling, rowing, pawnshops, tampons, harpoons, cartoons, the printing press, pizza, jeans, airplanes, microchips, gun powder, etc. The list is inexhaustible.

The very few things that are not of Korean origin are Samsung batteries and Cho Seung-Hui (of the Virginia Tech massacre fame). Inexplicably, Koreans try to distance themselves from Mr. Cho Seung-Hui, a towering martyr of anti-imperialist struggle.

In any event, I had a nice pasta dinner today, and I thanked the Koreans for inventing pasta; without pasta, I would have had to subsist on overboiled English cabbage.

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Confucius was a patronising Nazi. All that stuff about "follow me, i'm the big daddy". Yecch!

Give me Lao-Tse any day.
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djhbrown wrote:Confucius was a patronising Nazi. All that stuff about "follow me, i'm the big daddy". Yecch!

Give me Lao-Tse any day.
Lao-Tse was Korean too, by the way, and quite possibly related to the Kims.

And what's wrong with following Confucius? We all should be so lucky to follow such a famous Korean philosopher and wise man.

We non-Koreans are mere blades of grass, and Koreans are the sun. We owe our existence to the Koreans. It doesn't matter if it's Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-un, Kim-Chee, Park In-ho, Bum Suk-ho, Moon Kee-boi, Suk poo-dong, Cho Kong-kok, Ho Bum-leek, so long the person is Korean, we must follow him or her without questioning.
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Please keep posts relevant to the topic per forum rules:
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Keep posts relevant to the topic and make sure to use the edit button when appropriate.
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Don't belittle Koreans by making outrageous claims.
Chinese president thinks that a part of Korea was their district.
Go way way back and beyond the west and north from Paekdu mountain used to be the land of Goguryu empire. Yet Chinese are changing history just like the Japanese to hide facts and educating their young generation with bogus story no other countries agree on.
These egocentric teachings of China and Japan must stop or they'll think the whole part of Asia is theirs.
Believe me or not Korea is an homogeneous nation unlike China and Japan.
That tells a lot about why they in group moved to settle in Korean peninsula.
Chinese think that all Asians came from China which is a total nonsense.
Chinese are mixed groups of clans that united whether voluntarily or not, in a single big mass of land. There's no single origin or identity of Chinese because of this. Mixed people tend to be more violent and problematic compared to pure blooded. Just look and compare any dogs that are half breed and pure bred. That tells a lot about what's going on with today's conflicts around the world.
Go was also said to be originated in China which maybe true but it's not a chinese game. There's not even a single record of any chinese ancestor inventing the game. You go way way back and only Korea has more simplest form of Go game on record and baduk the word is distinct from China and Japan.
Weichi and Igo both meaning either a surrounding stone or surrounding sound of wood. But Koreans call it baduk because it originated from rice field and that how it is shaped a big square with lines going across vertically and horizontally.
Korean language is another unique and original which can't be traced back to any ancient language. This makes it more puzzling as to who ancient Koreans were. Only Chinese and Japanese hate most of these facts because they feel primitive and shallow to the long culture of Korea.
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Alphazen wrote:Don't belittle Koreans by making outrageous claims.
Chinese president thinks that a part of Korea was their district.
Go way way back and beyond the west and north from Paekdu mountain used to be the land of Goguryu empire. Yet Chinese are changing history just like the Japanese to hide facts and educating their young generation with bogus story no other countries agree on.
These egocentric teachings of China and Japan must stop or they'll think the whole part of Asia is theirs.
Believe me or not Korea is an homogeneous nation unlike China and Japan.
That tells a lot about why they in group moved to settle in Korean peninsula.
Chinese think that all Asians came from China which is a total nonsense.
Chinese are mixed groups of clans that united whether voluntarily or not, in a single big mass of land. There's no single origin or identity of Chinese because of this. Mixed people tend to be more violent and problematic compared to pure blooded. Just look and compare any dogs that are half breed and pure bred. That tells a lot about what's going on with today's conflicts around the world.
Go was also said to be originated in China which maybe true but it's not a chinese game. There's not even a single record of any chinese ancestor inventing the game. You go way way back and only Korea has more simplest form of Go game on record and baduk the word is distinct from China and Japan.
Weichi and Igo both meaning either a surrounding stone or surrounding sound of wood. But Koreans call it baduk because it originated from rice field and that how it is shaped a big square with lines going across vertically and horizontally.
Korean language is another unique and original which can't be traced back to any ancient language. This makes it more puzzling as to who ancient Koreans were. Only Chinese and Japanese hate most of these facts because they feel primitive and shallow to the long culture of Korea.
LOL, and you don't think North Koreans are unhinged? That was my whole point.
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Consider this a warning Alphazen and ewan1971 for continuing to violate the forum rules (see above), next off-topic post's a ban.
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I suggest move all posts from #13 onward to a new thread in Off-Topic called "Ramblings on Korea" or some-such. Agree?
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Xinhua Sports on Twitter

"Top Go pros Jiang Zhujiu and Rui Naiwei will explain every move of Man vs Machine clashes between China's Ke Jie and AlphaGo on May 23-27"

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Life steam on YouTube (not DeepMind channel) https://youtu.be/kDTWCNLd55M
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