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Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:21 pm
by dsatkas
From the 6 most active players in the Greek team, 2 live in the same city, another 500km north of that, one in England, one in Scotland and one in Germany... :lol:

Let's suppose that 4 players are gathered at the same time at the same place, who exactly is going to look over them? Obviously you can't trust another local player and there are no official representatives nearby. What happens (as it usually does) if one game is postponed for another day? Also, there is no official go club.

Well, i'm a pessimist irl, but i just can't see how this could work even if the circumstances were better.

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:49 am
by Matti
So getting an observer to look at the game can be problematic in some cases. We could start to experiment the observer policy at the A league, which is the most serious one as top four teams get into the finals and get prize money. Also the games should be played unrated in all leagues.

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:10 am
by Javaness2
Fede wrote: Leagues C and D Manager (so referee too) here. I guarantee you that no, I wouldn't be able to monitor 20 games at once.
I hope you realised, but I wasn't serious about this possibility. Webcams seem basically useless in the current format.

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:33 am
by Bohdan
We can always switch to blitz games. In chess it works. You cannot use a bot if there is little time.

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:11 pm
by dsatkas
Bohdan wrote:We can always switch to blitz games. In chess it works. You cannot use a bot if there is little time.
sure, but then the tournament loses its appeal. The point is to play long-thinking games against strong opponents.I won't even mention the significance of good connection for a blitz game (i have seen too many times disconnects and the server seems to not be reliable), misclicks etc.

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:46 pm
by Tryss
And you can still cheat, it's just a little more complicated.

I mean, you could "easily" program an overlay to show in real time the evaluation of LZ over your game, with automatic input of moves. Someone who know how to program could probably create such program in a couple weeks. You could even allow for suboptimal suggestions aiming to avoid cheating detection (for exemple, the overlay could gives you info only if you're loosing or if the move will make you lose)

Re: Pandasafe

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:19 pm
by Fede
Javaness2 wrote:
Fede wrote: Leagues C and D Manager (so referee too) here. I guarantee you that no, I wouldn't be able to monitor 20 games at once.
I hope you realised, but I wasn't serious about this possibility. Webcams seem basically useless in the current format.
I wasn't certain and I wanted to make sure no one of the readers expected that from me! :D