armpit approach to komoku

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Re: armpit approach to komoku

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Bill Spight wrote:
atarihuana wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:The two things that bother me about it are:
1) Black can tenuki easily. ( It is a symmetrical position. If white does not mind black having sente here, then black can't mind white having sente either, so it costs him very little to tenuki )
what? no. yes it is symetrical, but it also is a "contact" play. do not tenuki, the area is "hot"
Probably not. In theory, non-random plays close to other stones usually reduce the temperature. We may have the feeling that they raise it, but today's top bots do not make that assumption. :)
I'm with atarihuana here.

What about the normal approaches? Eg. Knights move:
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This kind of approach is very tenuki-able. If black ignores White's approach then it's just as if white played an unpopular opening move (5-3) and black played a very reasonable approach.
White gets a result as if she played the first move in the corner, but that move has to be the unpopular 5-3 move and it seems a little less likely that the 5-3 stone was played with good direction because white may have expected a response.

With the armpit hit whoever plays there next gets a result as if they played the first 3-4 stone in that corner.

When we approach a corner I think we usually accept that if the other player
-played first in the corner
-takes gote
Then we expect that they will have the noticeably better position. We just hope that we will have a reasonably good position considering these factors.
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