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Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:48 pm
by Uberdude
hyperpape wrote:What was the sequence in the lower left?
From Mateusz? The usual followup for black of hane in corner after the 4-4 attachment against the big low shimari and white's hane outside is not so good when black doesn't have the ladder (starting at c9 in variation) to upper right (so better not to attach in the first place, playing cool AI attachments
all the time isn't wise), so it looks to me like Mateusz went for the extension, KJ played hane and maybe Mateusz wasn't so familiar with the variations so decided to abort and cut his loses and sacrifice instead of getting in a messy fight and messing it up even more.
Obviously I expect Ke Jie to crush him, but it's a shame to have not at least kept it even-ish for a bit longer. I can't help but wonder if all the Transatlantic drama has adversely affected him, which would be a real shame to damage this precious opportunity to play the world's best players.
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 10:11 am
by Arcaress
Round 5:
Europe 0-3 China
Mateusz Surma 0-1 Ke Jie
Ilya Shikshin 0-1 Mi Yuting
Pavol Lisy 0-1 Gu Zihao
Korea 3-0 North America
Park Junghwan 1-0 Ryan Li
Shin Jinseo 1-0 Gansheng Shi
Lee Jihyun 1-0 Eric Lui
Japan 2-1 Chinese Taipei
Murakawa Daisuke 1-0 Wang Yuanjun
Ida Atsushi 1-0 Lin Lixiang
Motoki Katsuya 0-1 Xu Haohong
Women:
Chinese Taipei 0-2 Korea
Joanne Missingham 0-1 Choi Jeong
Bai Xinhui 0-1 Oh Yujin
Japan 2-0 North America
Mukai Chiaki 1-0 Lin Xuefen
Nyu Eiko 1-0 Su Gabriella
Europe 0-2 China
Natalia Kovaleva 0-1 Yu Zhiying
Ougier Ariane 0-1 Wang Chenxing
Source:
http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2019-05-16 ... 1053.shtml
Also first round of pair go. Chinese Taipei and Europe got additional pair of players as a wildcard. Tournament bracket looks complicated:
http://n.sinaimg.cn/sports/transform/33 ... 528937.png
Wang Yuanjun and Joanne Missingham 1-0 Murakawa Daisuke and Nyu Eiko
Shin Jinseo and Choi Jeong 1-0 Mi Yuting and Yu Zhiying
Ilya Shikshin and Natalia Kovaleva 1-0 Eric Lui and Lin Xuefen
Lin Lixiang and Bai Xinhui 1-0 Pavol Lisy and Ougier Ariane
Source:
http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2019-05-16 ... 2138.shtml
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:28 am
by Uberdude
So Men team results are:
1. China 5W 0L
2. Korea 4W 1L
3. Japan 3W 2L
4. Taiwan 2W 3L
5. Europe 1W 4L
6. NA 0W 5L
Women team:
1. Korea 4W 1D 0L
2. China 4W 0D 1L
3. Japan 2W 2D 1L
4. Taiwan 2W 1D 2L
5. NA 1W 0D 4L
6. Europe 0W 0D 5L
(So as I predicted, except Japan finished above Taiwan in both cases).
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:48 am
by John Fairbairn
I have seen an EGF document that says the IMSA Elite Mind Games (which seems to be the official name, rather than World Masters) uses Ing rules.
Assuming that's correct, several questions arise, but just a couple here:
1. Why do photos show players using ordinary bowls and not the Ing monstrosities that were more like a toy for 2-year-olds. I can understand players not liking them, but I thought they were integral to scoring the game correctly? Have they been superseded? If so, what is the new counting procedure?
2. Ing rules AFAIK say the komi is 8 points, so why does everyone make it 7.5? I can see that it apparently might not make any difference most of the time, but we have seen in the past, and recently in the Transatlantic Match, that there are people who do fuss over rules.
3. If Ing rules are not in use, which ruleset is used?
4. Has the Ing Foundation relaxed the counting rules in other tournaments (but, if so, I gather they retain the Ing time-payment rules - correct?)
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pm
by Bojanic
John Fairbairn wrote: 1. Why do photos show players using ordinary bowls and not the Ing monstrosities that were more like a toy for 2-year-olds. I can understand players not liking them, but I thought they were integral to scoring the game correctly? Have they been superseded? If so, what is the new counting procedure?
Procedure with Ing's bowls is to open lid, see that all stones are there, and then raise the bottom. After that, you could even simply transfer stones to ordinary bowls.
You can also use other method's to count stones before game:
- wooden board with 30/45/60 holes, where you could easily place stones, and remove them
- precise scale (if you have stones of same weight/size).
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:41 pm
by Arcaress
Pair go
Round 2:
Mi Yuting and Yu Zhiying 1-0 Murakawa Daisuke and Nyu Eiko
Shin Jinseo and Choi Jeong 1-0 Wang Yuanjun and Joanne Missingham
Lin Lixiang and Bai Xinhui 1-0 Ilya Shikshin and Natalia Kovaleva
Pavol Lisy and Ougier Ariane 1-0 Eric Lui and Lin Xuefen
Source:
http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2019-05-17 ... 7955.shtml
3-4 places match:
Wang Yuanjun and Joanne Missingham 1-0 Ilya Shikshin and Natalia Kovaleva
5-6 places match:
Mi Yuting and Yu Zhiying 1-0 Pavol Lisy and Ougier Ariane
7-8 places match:
Murakawa Daisuke and Nyu Eiko 1-0 Eric Lui and Lin Xuefen
Thus final 3-8 places:
3. Wang Yuanjun and Joanne Missingham
4. Ilya Shikshin and Natalia Kovaleva
5. Mi Yuting and Yu Zhiying
6. Pavol Lisy and Ougier Ariane
7. Murakawa Daisuke and Nyu Eiko
8. Eric Lui and Lin Xuefen
Finals are today.
Source:
https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/gonews/detail/25110
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:23 am
by Javaness2
I read on chessbase that this event was split by sex. Pretty retro!
https://en.chessbase.com/post/why-imsa- ... open-chess
IMSA follows IOC and GAISF norms for events. It is Men and Women events
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:05 am
by Uberdude
EGF report on the event with some games and interviews:
https://www.eurogofed.org/index.html?id=258
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:28 am
by Tryss
By the way, I see in the interviews that Chinese league C will happens in June and that some Euro pro will play : do we know the dates?
Re: IMSA World Masters
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:39 am
by Uberdude
wolfking has done an excellent job of covering the past events (
2018 here), hopefully he does it again
