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Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:30 am
by And
he probably had reasons to walk like that, but unfortunately he won’t explain it

I continued the game after move 149 several times, ZEN (gtp4zen) wins more often than loses. ZEN original is the same
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:58 am
by And
SAI #82 8ee88aa5 (10 sec/move, cpu version)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/8ee88aa51f ... 526963b.gz
against Crazy Stone Deep Learning 5 dan (WINDOWS) - SAI B+19.5:
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:02 am
by And
SAI #92 a520f71b (-v 1000, cpu version)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/a520f71b10 ... 2c663ca.gz
against ZEN 7 6 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r15 -s3000 -n3 -o4.4 -p0.6) - 1:19
zen surrendered in one game:
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:54 am
by And
SAI developer:
"I believe SAI will get superhuman in a few months, with the support of the community. Anyhow we don't presume that it will ever be as strong as the latest LZ networks. That's not its purpose.
The aim of SAI is to get rid of the suboptimal moves LZ or AG may play when they are too far ahead of their opponent (i.e. almost always against humans) or when they are far behind (i.e. at the beginning of a game with handicap).
When SAI will be superhuman, it could show really how much handicap (in points or maybe in stones) it could give to a strong player. Or how many points difference it could score in a fair game.
In endgame, it may be able to show unknown smart plays or exhibit optimal choices in difficult situations.
This is presently from very difficult to impossible under the LZ/AG structure, because you would need to tailor positions in which the perfection of endgame moves really would matter for winning, and not just for score."
https://github.com/leela-zero/leela-zer ... -548264646
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:28 am
by And
SAI #99 109c93bc (-v 1000, cpu version)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/109c93bcf1 ... babe7ef.gz
against ZEN 7 7 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r15 -s3500 -n3 -o2.8 -p0.65) - 1:19
zen surrendered in one game:
TIME_B: 999.5, TIME_W: 751.4
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:28 am
by And
SAI #107 6542a4fd (-v 1600, cpu version)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/6542a4fd58 ... 9fd5a11.gz
against ZEN 7 8 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r20 -s4000 -n3 -o1.4 -p0.7) - 1:19
zen surrendered in one game:
TIME_B: 1248.9, TIME_W: 1074
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:57 am
by And
SAI #109 ddcec541 (-v 1600, cpu version)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/ddcec541a9 ... 0277f2b.gz
against ZEN 7 9 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r20 -s6000 -n3 -o1.0 -p0.75) in the first game ZEN surrendered:
TIME_B: 1997.4, TIME_W: 1483.1
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 am
by And
SAI #109 ddcec541 (-v 1600)
http://sai.unich.it/networks/ddcec541a9 ... 0277f2b.gz
against KataGo (6x96) 2:48 (5 sec/move, gt 610)
TIME_B: 621.4 TIME_W: 644.8
TIME_B: 659 TIME_W: 643.4
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 am
by And
perhaps the next after 6x128 will be the network 9x192. in test matches these networks appeared, for example a48ceb19
http://sai.unich.it/networks/a48ceb1926 ... 7a34235.gz
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:07 pm
by And
11 hours ago:
"We plan to wait
until we have a 9x192 network trained on the most recent data before switching.
It should happen in about 10 hours."
https://github.com/sai-dev/sai/issues/3 ... -561051187
very interesting...
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:34 am
by And
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:21 am
by Sneegurd
And wrote:http://sai.unich.it
OK I'm stupid. How can I play it 9x9 with Sabaki, what's the command line? Thx.
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:19 am
by And
download:
https://github.com/sai-dev/sai/releases/
in Sabaki launch like Leela Zero:
path d:\sai\sai9x9.exe
--gtp --noponder -w 94619dea457de054503cec030269ce842c47055ba51e96db8fee841dfbaf05f9.gz
additionally: time_settings 0 5 1
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:00 am
by And
Re: New networks Leela Zero, a Sensible Artificial Intellige
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:47 am
by And
100 games 9x9, KataGo 10x128-s1108 - SAI (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 30:70 (KataGo b 9:41 and KataGo w 21:29)
100 games 9x9, KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 65:35 (KataGo b 23:27 and KataGo w 42:8)
in this game SAI gave up on move 30: