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Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:01 am
by Tryss
Anyway, to your point, it’s not clear to me that “atekomi” is self explanatory to this audience.
Until this thread, I didn't know what an atekomi was.

Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:43 pm
by gennan
A more descriptive English translation: inside attachment?
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:24 pm
by Bill Spight
gennan wrote:A more descriptive English translation: inside attachment?
Armpit attachment?
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:28 pm
by gennan
Or perhaps: an elbow (strike)/to elbow or a knee (strike)/to knee? (refering to martial arts)
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:49 pm
by Bill Spight
gennan wrote:Or perhaps: an elbow (strike)/to elbow or a knee (strike)/to knee? (refering to martial arts)
It's to the crook of the elbow or knee.

Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm
by jlt
A groin strike? (Ouch!)
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:28 pm
by Bill Spight
Elbow wedge?
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:38 pm
by gennan
Bill Spight wrote:gennan wrote:Or perhaps: an elbow (strike)/to elbow or a knee (strike)/to knee? (refering to martial arts)
It's to the crook of the elbow or knee.

It could also be an elbow/knee strike to the torso (I'm thinking Muay Thai).

Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:57 pm
by Gomoto
Oops I did it again, sent like an angel from above. It is a freaking angel wedge, not an angle wedge, can't you see it? I played with your connection, that is just so typically me.
An angel called Haley, not Britney by the way.
It is late already, don't bother

Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:00 pm
by Gomoto
For karma balance a nice atekomi game example.
(I was mainly interested in the AI prepared lower left opening by black when I spotted the atekomi move 43 after reading this thread.)
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:25 am
by Kirby
Marcel Grünauer wrote:Kirby wrote:i'm translating another video, and i don't know what to call this move:
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This exact corner position appears in Yoon Young-sun's new video
Diagonal answer is the best? - AI Master Class 6.
So you are translating all those videos by Ch'oi Ch'oel-han? If so, thank you for your efforts with the YouTube subtitles!
Ha, she already posted it! Yeah, I did the subtitles here. I finished last night, so I didn’t realize the post was already up.
Despite the interesting thread here, I used “pinch” and moved on since nothing seemed totally satisfying to me. When you see “pinch”, feel free to think atekomi or whatever.
About the videos, I told her I can’t do them every day. Probably more like once a week. I had planned to focus on go, but then this came up. I guess it’s still go study, but frankly, I retain more about the wording he uses than the position when I translate these.
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:57 pm
by Gomoto
This thread raised my awareness that an atekomi / angle wedge move can be a good option. I frowned upon such a candidate move and dismissed in the passed not seldom, when it probably would have been the proper move. Like a regular wedge, to place a stone with only two liberties, is to be considered carefully (reading necessary).
Re: what to call this move?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:30 am
by gennan
I'm not sure if it can be called an atekomi, but it's a very nice tesuji in this tsumego problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YRDVlS ... u.be&t=122