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Re: Can you find this amazing AI move

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:04 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Knotwilg wrote:Order of moves matters:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O O X X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . 6 X O . X . O O O X O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . 4 3 O X X X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 X O X O 9 X X . X O O . O X X . . |
$$ | . 1 X X O O X X O X X . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 8 2 . . 0 X . O O X O O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . O . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
For example, this would be the wrong order for White
I certainly agree that order of moves matter. I'm assuming that we play :w9: as below when faced with :b8:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O O X X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . 6 X O . X . O O O X O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . 4 3 O X X X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 X O X O . X X . X O O . O X X . . |
$$ | . 1 X X O O X X O X X . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 8 2 . . . X . O O X O O . . . O . . |
$$ | . 9 7 . . O . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White does not have to play G14 to get a good result. Capturing C13 is just as good, and maybe better.

Re: Can you find this amazing AI move

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:32 am
by bernds
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[go]$$Wc19m1
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X O O X O O X X X
$$ | . X X O . X . O O O X
$$ | . X O O X X X O . . X
$$ | . O X O X O 6 X X . X
$$ | . O X X O O X X O X X
$$ | 2 X X 3 4 5 X . O O X
$$ | . 1 O . . O . . O . O
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]

Re: Can you find this amazing AI move

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:57 pm
by Knotwilg
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[go]$$W Black's resistance
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O O X X X O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . 8 X O . X . O O O X O . . O , X . . |
$$ | . 6 5 O X X X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 X O X O 4 X X . X O O . O X X . . |
$$ | . 1 X X O O X X O X X . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 9 2 . . . X . O O X O O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . a 3 . O . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . b , . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
This is IMO the correct refutation