Life In 19x19

I wouldn't rely too much on google wave... it's supposed to disappear within a few weeks...

Has anyone written a reasonably good go Windows 7 phone app?

No one seems to be answering me on my other thread.

Sorry to bother

Has anyone found a SGF recorder for android that has a way to correct the game record on the fly? The main thing I am missing from my old PilotGOne is the convenient "replace move" function. Very useful for recording games during tournaments.

Redbeard wrote:Has anyone found a SGF recorder for android that has a way to correct the game record on the fly? The main thing I am missing from my old PilotGOne is the convenient "replace move" function. Very useful for recording games during tournaments.

How does it work from the sgf tree perspective? It probably wouldn't be too hard to add after all the other things I've been meaning to do with gobandroid.

oren wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Has anyone found a SGF recorder for android that has a way to correct the game record on the fly? The main thing I am missing from my old PilotGOne is the convenient "replace move" function. Very useful for recording games during tournaments.

How does it work from the sgf tree perspective? It probably wouldn't be too hard to add after all the other things I've been meaning to do with gobandroid.

With PilotGOne, when you went back to the move in question and selected a different location a menu would pop up and ask if you wanted to create a variation, replace one move, or replace all moves. "create a variation" would start a new tree branch, "replace one move" would change the move in question in the current branch, and "replace all moves" would delete all of the recorded moves after that point.

I never had occasion to use the "replace all moves" option, but the "replace one move" came in handy when I was half way through recording a game an discovered a recording mistake from 10+ previous moves. Maybe I'm the only one who makes such mistakes...

Redbeard wrote:I never had occasion to use the "replace all moves" option, but the "replace one move" came in handy when I was half way through recording a game an discovered a recording mistake from 10+ previous moves. Maybe I'm the only one who makes such mistakes...

Ok, so basically you want to pick one stone, find where it was placed in the sgf tree, replace it to another move, and then have tree at the new state.

I think that should be doable.

Easiest way is to just create a new branch that deletes the previous stone and adds the new stone, but that makes for a messy game to follow later.

wambat wrote:Hi, i'm a developer of android go problems (can be found on market), problems solving app.

Could you give the actual name of the app? I did a search on the android market and it didn't turn up.

Redbeard wrote:Has anyone found a SGF recorder for android that has a way to correct the game record on the fly? The main thing I am missing from my old PilotGOne is the convenient "replace move" function. Very useful for recording games during tournaments.

The KGS client lets you undo a move. But if you mean a move other than the most recent one, then no, you would need to undo all the way back to the mistake, fix it, then redo all the later moves.

wms wrote:The KGS client lets you undo a move. But if you mean a move other than the most recent one, then no, you would need to undo all the way back to the mistake, fix it, then redo all the later moves.

Does the KGS client now allow you to record games offline? I thought it was only for playing on the server. I am specifically looking for an app to record games during in person tournaments.

Redbeard wrote:

wms wrote:The KGS client lets you undo a move. But if you mean a move other than the most recent one, then no, you would need to undo all the way back to the mistake, fix it, then redo all the later moves.

Does the KGS client now allow you to record games offline? I thought it was only for playing on the server. I am specifically looking for an app to record games during in person tournaments.

The KGS client lets you record to KGS. Not to your SD card. But you can tag your game before you start recording, then your game can be downloaded by going to the KGS archives page with your tagged games. So as long as you have phone service, you get the same functionality as saving to your SD card would give you (except, IMHO, it's easier because the game ends up on a web page instead of on an SD card).

Redbeard wrote:

oren wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Has anyone found a SGF recorder for android that has a way to correct the game record on the fly? The main thing I am missing from my old PilotGOne is the convenient "replace move" function. Very useful for recording games during tournaments.

How does it work from the sgf tree perspective? It probably wouldn't be too hard to add after all the other things I've been meaning to do with gobandroid.

With PilotGOne, when you went back to the move in question and selected a different location a menu would pop up and ask if you wanted to create a variation, replace one move, or replace all moves. "create a variation" would start a new tree branch, "replace one move" would change the move in question in the current branch, and "replace all moves" would delete all of the recorded moves after that point.

I never had occasion to use the "replace all moves" option, but the "replace one move" came in handy when I was half way through recording a game an discovered a recording mistake from 10+ previous moves. Maybe I'm the only one who makes such mistakes...

I just uploaded version 1.29 of anDGS in the Android market place with an update to do just what you requested above. The editor has a number of mode options, select "Edit" to do the above, "Markup" will allow you to place labels and standard sgf markup, "Browse" will go to a move. Let me know if anything else is missing.

Now that I have a fairly complete set of working features, I may have to redesign the editor GUI to make it more convenient to get at all the features. I don't use the editor very much so your feedback on where to put things or how to restructure access to the features to make it easier to use would be very helpful. Since I have satisfied my personal needs with the basic DGS client features, everything else is driven by user requests and feedback.

I'll give it a try! Thanks!

Mdobbins: I have an feature request: Be able to play using the D-pad of my cellphone. I can see an green square that I can move around with my d-pad, and when I click with the "OK" button in my d-pad it flicks. I haven't figured out for what it is for, but I would love to be able to click and it input the stone in the place I want. Another important detail: make it remember the place it was, so that for the next movement it starts where you left, and not from the edge of the board again. Godroid has it implemented but it always starts from the edge of the screen, wich is annoying. Gobandroid and "Go Free" do it right, for reference.

I have an Galaxy i7500, with an relatively small screen. Inputing the pieces using the d-pad is infinitely more precise than by touch and zoom, and more confortable too, as you always have the full view of the board.

Also, you could make an virtual-d-pad mode for those who lack the dpad. You could put the virtual buttons on the center-botton of the screen, with the "place the stone" button on the side (no acidental press). Or make the dpad bigger, over the board, and disable the traditional touch and zoom method (make an swich to alternate between the two modes). The latter seems more complex, but may be better.

Anyway, what I need now is only the first request. Can it be done?

Caroliano wrote:Mdobbins: I have an feature request: Be able to play using the D-pad of my cellphone. I can see an green square that I can move around with my d-pad, and when I click with the "OK" button in my d-pad it flicks. I haven't figured out for what it is for, but I would love to be able to click and it input the stone in the place I want. Another important detail: make it remember the place it was, so that for the next movement it starts where you left, and not from the edge of the board again. Godroid has it implemented but it always starts from the edge of the screen, wich is annoying. Gobandroid and "Go Free" do it right, for reference.

I have an Galaxy i7500, with an relatively small screen. Inputing the pieces using the d-pad is infinitely more precise than by touch and zoom, and more confortable too, as you always have the full view of the board.

Also, you could make an virtual-d-pad mode for those who lack the dpad. You could put the virtual buttons on the center-botton of the screen, with the "place the stone" button on the side (no acidental press). Or make the dpad bigger, over the board, and disable the traditional touch and zoom method (make an swich to alternate between the two modes). The latter seems more complex, but may be better.

Anyway, what I need now is only the first request. Can it be done?

This sound like a nice addition to optionally use the dpad for making moves in both the client and the editor (I already use the dpad for moving through the game record in browse mode.) I will put it high on my list for the next update.

In the mean time, have you used the portrait7 layout option, it zooms to a 7x7 area which will have larger stones than the default portrait9 layout option which zooms to a 9x9 area.

Yeah, it is really much better. I haven't tried it before. But the d-pad is still safer.