Life In 19x19

ross wrote:But maybe for the purposes of this forum, it's still best to adopt a Sensei's Library-compatible license, and then force those who wish to retain copyright to find another venue. For example, if John Ferryborn wants to post an exerpt from his upcoming article here, he can post it on his blog and post a link here instead. Or if tchan001 wants to post a collection of Chinese books and commentary with the idea that he might want to delete all his posts and make money off the content elsewhere, he should probably just post his books and commentary elsewhere to begin with and post links to it from here. That way anything actually posted here can be considered safe to archive in Sensei's Library and doesn't have the danger of being lost to a database outage or GD-style destruction. But we have to look at what we're losing out by going that route.

flOvermind wrote:Well, it has implications to users wanting to copy text from here:

kirkmc wrote:Anyone can copy it and paste it elsewhere - that's the nature of the medium.

That's wrong. By default, noone can copy anything anyone else wrote. That's completely independent of the medium.

Of course there are some exceptions. There's the right to quote. Then there's fair use (whatever that means). And of course there may be a licence that allows certain things that are not allowed by default (legally speaking, if I tell you you may use it, that's a license, too). But if you want to be on the safe side, don't copy anything, ever.

kirkmc wrote:Anyone can copy and paste. We're not talking about what's legal or not, but simply the nature of the medium (web pages) that allow copying and pasting.

Helel wrote:My personal views on the issue are perhaps not the ones belonging to the majority.
(For the record I think you should work for the betterment of mankind without any thought of
personal profit or recognition. In fact, if your only reward for your troubles is that you're crucified,
then you should embrace that destiny with joy.)
Of course it has been pointed out that I am a political idiot.

Anyway, I keep this rant short.

You lot may keep a too elitist company to notice, but the majority of
people are:
1. stupid
2. lazy
3. evil.

Regardless of any copyright people will copy your text, alter it, lay words
and expressions in your mouth and insinuate things about your relationships
with barnyard animals.

The only thing a copyright will change is if you are able to take legal action.
If you do want to occupy the legal system, and make a lot of lawyers rich, this is of
course fine, but don't expect any other outcome.
(Murder has been outlawed a long time and this doesn't seem to stop anyone.)

Do we really want the forum rules to cause a lot of law suits, that is the question, as I see it.

Remember, the only right any human has ever really had, is the right to suffer.
Don't expect anything else.

An optimist, I see.

The only thing a copyright will change is if you are able to take legal action.

freegame wrote:

An optimist, I see.

hehe, But I think Helel is right.

The only thing a copyright will change is if you are able to take legal action.

I don't think anyone is going to sue someone else for copping his or her post on the forum...
Just don't post anything that someone else is using to make money (don't post digital copies of books ect.)

so you can discuss all you want but all you get is the right to take legal action, but because nobody will take this action the discussion about the copyright of forum posts is kind of pointless in my opinion...

unkx80 wrote:If we want L19 to be compatible with SL, then I think OpenContent License has to be used.

CarlJung wrote:

unkx80 wrote:If we want L19 to be compatible with SL, then I think OpenContent License has to be used.

Why would we want that? What problem does it solve?

PeterHB wrote:Do we want a specific policy for the copyright of people's text here at L19?