Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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John Fairbairn wrote:Since it's topical, fans of Go Seigen might like to have a heads-up about the next project from the GoGoD Archives, since I just happen to have been discussing it with Anders Kierulf this week - by pure coincidence as I'd forgotten about the birthday.

Although we haven't actually sealed our moves, I have almost ready the next volume in the Go Seigen ten-game match series. This one is against Karigane Junichi. It is interesting in many ways - Go goes Body Shop with salt, top players end up in court when another top player complains of libel over his grade, and one of the games is known as a "famous games among famous games" (mainly for Karigane's brilliance, actually). Oh, and of course there is a war going on.

This is a relatively short match, but I allowed Karigane to jump the queue over Iwamoto and Hashimoto (both volumes well in hand) because I changed my style of presentation a bit to make it easier to set up the SmartGo version (which will be the only one pro tem - please, no griping, it's out of my hands). My idea was to get the new presentation right before trying it on the bigger volumes.

Doing Go-K first means putting the Meijin Inseki's "Today We Have A Splendid Feast" back a little, but John Mifsud is working on the SmartGo conversion of "Gateway To All Marvels" at the moment, so that should very soon give problem solvers something to get their teeth into for the time being.

Great idea about Google, BTW, David!


Is there going to be a paper version of this as well?
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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google wrote:Unfortunately :
We DO NOT do doodles for the following types of events
[...]
- Birthdays of living people
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Sorry, David
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Am I reading correctly that John Fairbairn is writing a series of books about Go Seigen's matches?
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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cdybeijing wrote:Am I reading correctly that John Fairbairn is writing a series of books about Go Seigen's matches?


He has been doing so for a while, specifically about the famous set of jubango matches. Those currently released (though I'm not sure if they're easy to obtain any more) are Kamakura (vs Kitani), Final Summit (vs Takagawa Shukaku), and 9-dan Showdown (vs Fujisawa Kuranosuke). They are really excellent.
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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amnal wrote:
cdybeijing wrote:Am I reading correctly that John Fairbairn is writing a series of books about Go Seigen's matches?


He has been doing so for a while, specifically about the famous set of jubango matches. Those currently released (though I'm not sure if they're easy to obtain any more) are Kamakura (vs Kitani), Final Summit (vs Takagawa Shukaku), and 9-dan Showdown (vs Fujisawa Kuranosuke). They are really excellent.


They're quite easily available from slate and shell, at least as of this past winter.
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Go Seigen's 100th birthday is a week from today! (June 12) Seems like somebody somewhere should be making a big deal of this. Any plans?

Or maybe according to Chinese and Japanese counting he's already 100? I'm not sure.
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I'll try to replay as many games from his Collected Games as possible, or something gunny like this
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Could we find 100 members to each replay a different game of his? Members so far: RBerenguel, Hushfield. 98 to go.
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Surprise! Google is celebrating Shusaku's birthday instead. http://www.google.com/doodles/honinbo-s ... h-birthday
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I would hope that some celebrations are taking place in China and Japan. Has anyone heard anything?
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Hushfield wrote:Could we find 100 members to each replay a different game of his? Members so far: RBerenguel, Hushfield. 98 to go.


I'm in. Here's mine, quite the awesome game, played a bit more than 75 years ago against Sakata Eio:

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I suppose I'll just publish the most recent game of his that I was looking over.

Although the game is famous for a rare triple attack, the most interesting thing to me was his response to White 42 (and the entire following sequence). Also, why White chose 40 rather than C11...the simplicity in the way he creates such a firm group inside the opponent's territory was interesting to me. There's commentary of the game in Go World, Iss. 100. He was 12-points ahead before his opponent resigned.

John Power wrote:In the process of saving his centre top and side groups, White's centre right group has died, so this decides the game.



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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Maybe we could find 100 new players who are each willing to lose their first 100 games on his birthday.
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Hushfield wrote:Could we find 100 members to each replay a different game of his? Members so far: RBerenguel, Hushfield. 98 to go.

I'm in. I'll use the recent Go Eye update and find a nice shin-fuseki game, maybe against Kitani. Great idea.
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I'm willing!
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